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marmar

(77,073 posts)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:49 PM Feb 2012

How Greece Could Take Down Wall Street


Published on Monday, February 20, 2012 by Common Dreams
How Greece Could Take Down Wall Street

by Ellen Brown


In an article titled “Still No End to ‘Too Big to Fail,’” William Greider wrote in The Nation on February 15th:

Financial market cynics have assumed all along that Dodd-Frank did not end "too big to fail" but instead created a charmed circle of protected banks labeled "systemically important" that will not be allowed to fail, no matter how badly they behave.

That may be, but there is one bit of bad behavior that Uncle Sam himself does not have the funds to underwrite: the $32 trillion market in credit default swaps (CDS). Thirty-two trillion dollars is more than twice the U.S. GDP and more than twice the national debt.

CDS are a form of derivative taken out by investors as insurance against default. According to the Comptroller of the Currency, nearly 95% of the banking industry’s total exposure to derivatives contracts is held by the nation’s five largest banks: JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, Bank of America, HSBC, and Goldman Sachs. The CDS market is unregulated, and there is no requirement that the “insurer” actually have the funds to pay up. CDS are more like bets, and a massive loss at the casino could bring the house down. .........................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/02/20



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How Greece Could Take Down Wall Street (Original Post) marmar Feb 2012 OP
Du rec. Nt xchrom Feb 2012 #1
Greece alone won't do it Warpy Feb 2012 #2
Wall Street will take down Wall Street. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #14
k&r jannyk Feb 2012 #3
Fairy-dust securities customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #4
Outlawed by who? Pardon me, but I thought that we were electing a majority in 2008 to do that AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #5
It would be good if world financial bodies would see the stupidity of them customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #7
I'm still hopeful that some big-money guys will see that it is not in their best interest to AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #10
The Commodities Futures Act of 2000 ought to be repealled. Laelth Feb 2012 #6
Yep, and one of the worst things produced from the Contract on America Congress. valerief Feb 2012 #8
Phil Gramm should be Arrested for Crimes Against Humanity LarryNM Feb 2012 #9
You're a kinder person than me. nt valerief Feb 2012 #11
For some people this is news but.............. nolabels Feb 2012 #12
Ellen Brown is very bright. girl gone mad Feb 2012 #13
kick Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #15

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
2. Greece alone won't do it
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:45 PM
Feb 2012

although a lot of people in bond heavy mutual funds will get hurt along with institutional investors.

What's going to take Wall Street down is the implosion of the derivatives market, something 100% of the financial finagling worldwide is trying to avert. It is inevitable, of course, since derivatives are nothing but bets, sometimes bets on bets. When they go, they're going to take a lot of billionaires and institutions with them. The money will once again disappear overnight.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
4. Fairy-dust securities
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:28 PM
Feb 2012

should be outlawed. The fact that so many of these gamblers can rack up tabs of this size is obscene.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
5. Outlawed by who? Pardon me, but I thought that we were electing a majority in 2008 to do that
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:37 PM
Feb 2012

and more.

It appears that no matter what we do as voters, we can't keep Goldman Sachs personnel and others like them out of any Aministration.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
7. It would be good if world financial bodies would see the stupidity of them
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 05:04 PM
Feb 2012

and I had hopes that we really would have "Change" when it came to this, but I guess I was wrong.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
10. I'm still hopeful that some big-money guys will see that it is not in their best interest to
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:30 PM
Feb 2012

continue with this.

FDR understood this.

Too bad that we don't have an FDR in the office or in the wings ready to be elected.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
6. The Commodities Futures Act of 2000 ought to be repealled.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:38 PM
Feb 2012

Signing that was one of the worst things Clinton did while in office.

-Laelth

valerief

(53,235 posts)
8. Yep, and one of the worst things produced from the Contract on America Congress.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 06:01 PM
Feb 2012

Phil Gramm should be...can't say it.

LarryNM

(493 posts)
9. Phil Gramm should be Arrested for Crimes Against Humanity
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 06:10 PM
Feb 2012

tried, convicted and sentenced to life in prison at hard labor without parole and have all of his assets seized by any nation or authority on Earth.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
12. For some people this is news but..............
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:31 PM
Feb 2012

for many that have been hanging around here at DU for the last ten years we have seen the writing on the wall many times and have been kind of wondering when it will actually happen. There are the simple mathematics about how the numbers don't ad up and we mostly know we are living in an artificial financial state of being has not been quite understood yet. Really though, these things that have always been there and been pointed out. The king having nothing on is just waiting to be discovered

So this state of finance is not going overlooked here. What fuse lights it up we don't know. It just hasn't happened yet because the crooks that have managed it and created it over the years have been able to put that fuse out before it did go boom! (so far)

So really it's kind of inevitable and just a matter of time before it does. Just like any ponzi scheme that cant stand on it's behalf if really examined closely it will also fold up. This is just a told you so, so just don't say nobody told you, because you have been warned

P.S. lots of informative comments after the article also

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