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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 05:25 PM Feb 2012

Infiltration to Disrupt, Divide and Misdirect Is Widespread in Occupy

February 25, 2012 at 8:51:50
Infiltration to Disrupt, Divide and Misdirect Is Widespread in Occupy
By Kevin Zeese and Margaret Flowers

In the first five months, the Occupy Movement has had major victories and has altered the debate about the economy. People in the power structure and who hold different political views are pushing back with a traditional tool -- infiltration. Across the country, Occupies are struggling with disruption and division, attacks on key persons, escalation of tactics to property damage and police conflict as well as misuse of websites and social media.

As Part II of this discussion will show, infiltration is the norm in political movements in the United States. Occupy has many opponents likely to infiltrate to divide and destroy it beyond the usual law enforcement apparatus. Others include the corporations whose rule Occupy seeks to end, conservative right wing groups allied with corporate interests and other members of the power structure including non-profit organizations allied with either corporate-funded political party, especially the Democratic Party which would like Occupy to be their Tea Party rather than an independent movement critical of both parties.

On the very first day of the Occupation of Wall Street, we saw infiltration by the police. We were leaving Zucotti Park and were stopped in traffic by the rear of the park. We saw an unmarked van open, in the front seat were two uniformed police and out of the back came two men dressed as occupiers wearing backpacks, sweatshirts, and jeans. They walked into Zucotti Park and became part of the crowd.

In the first week of the Occupation of Freedom Plaza in Washington, DC we saw the impact of two right wing infiltrators. A peaceful protest was planned at the drone exhibit at the Smithsonian Institution. The plan was for a banner drop and a die-in under the drones. But, as protesters arrived at the museum two people ran out in front, threatening the security guards and causing them to pepper spray protesters and tourists.

More:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Infiltration-to-Disrupt-D-by-Kevin-Zeese-120225-507.html

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Infiltration to Disrupt, Divide and Misdirect Is Widespread in Occupy (Original Post) Judi Lynn Feb 2012 OP
Du rec. Nt xchrom Feb 2012 #1
When a group of quaker women are infiltrated ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2012 #2
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #3
This is very important issue. The right wing is particularly fond of infiltrating and undermining Bill USA Feb 2012 #4
Related articles here, proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #5
This is why, within the Occupy movement, everyone must agree to complete nonviolence in all actions. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #6
+1. . . . .n/t annabanana Feb 2012 #7
absolutely libodem Feb 2012 #10
They do me b zola Feb 2012 #12
There are so many negative reports about the Oakland Occupy. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #14
excellent articles folks.. important thread.. 2banon Feb 2012 #8
Look back in history and see it has always been so zeemike Feb 2012 #9
Like this is some kind of surprise..... BrainDrain Feb 2012 #11
My Experience EmeraldCityGrl Feb 2012 #13

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
2. When a group of quaker women are infiltrated
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 05:41 PM
Feb 2012

as being a threat to the security of the USA because of their opposition to our Little Iraqi Invasion, nothing should surprise us anymore.

My only surprise is how little we have heard about it so far. There are ways to deal with inside spies, and the Occupy people are smart enough to figure them out, hopefully with the whimsical, humorous and effective means that has brought them this far.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
4. This is very important issue. The right wing is particularly fond of infiltrating and undermining
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:40 PM
Feb 2012

organizations/ movements that they fear.

this post/article should be read by everyone on DU (well, except the GOP infiltrators of DU. They don't need to read it)

Here is another important paragraph from the article about the techniques of undermining the target organization:


" [font size="3"] Disruptions of the General Assemblies and attempts to divide the group: Individuals would interrupt General Assemblies with emergency items or sidetrack the agenda with their personal needs or issues. When proposals were presented to the General Assembly on principles for the occupation or plans to prevent division, individuals would question the authority of the writers of the proposal, launch personal attacks or question their abilities. There were frequent attacks on people who did the most work and were perceived as leaders. [/font]The anti-leadership views of many occupiers were used to essentially attack the most effective people. Sue Basko wrote about this in Los Angeles in a comment on a Chris Hedges article, writing that there was an "ongoing campaign of harassment and coercion against the Occupy LA participants and volunteers. Each day is a fresh set of victims." She describes the use of Twitter, list serves and blogs to "defame and harass anyone giving their efforts to help Occupy LA." This has included attacks on "social media workers, the website team, the lawyers (including me), the medics, the livestreamers, the writers, and on and on." She also writes "there is the very strong belief that some among them are FBI or DHS agents placed there to start the group, egg it on, control it." Conversations with others in Los Angles confirmed this report. Our experience in the area of personal attacks included outlandish lies calling us criminals and thieves and near daily email attacks since early December. We found that when we respond and correct lies, it does not stop them and have concluded that if someone has the intention to be a character assassin there is nothing you can do to stop them except to expose them. While that does not necessarily stop them, it at least gets those in the occupation who are not gullible to doubt the undocumented personal attacks.



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proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
5. Related articles here,
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:14 PM
Feb 2012
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/02/06/wall-streets-secret-spy-center-run-for-the-1-by-nypd/

February 06, 2012

How 60 Minutes Blew the Story
Wall Street’s Secret Spy Center, Run for the 1% by NYPD

by PAM MARTENS


On September 25, 2011, just eight days after the Occupy Wall Street protests began in Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan, the much acclaimed CBS News program, 60 Minutes, aired a fawning look at the thousands of surveillance cameras affixed to buildings and lampposts throughout New York City. The cameras feed live images of people going about their everyday lives to a $150 million computer center equipped with artificial intelligence to integrate and analyze the daily habits of what are, for the most part, law-abiding Americans.

The thrust of the 60 Minutes program was the fine job of counterterrorism being done by the NYPD and its Commissioner, Raymond Kelly. It was a triumph in public relations for a police department about to go on an assault spree – pepper spraying and punching peaceful protestors; kicking, ramming and arresting journalists attempting to cover the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations.

On air, the reporter, Scott Pelley, said the surveillance center was “housed in a secret location,” as one would expect of a real counter terrorism program — as opposed to a program to simply quash dissent. Mr. Pelley also said the program was run by the NYPD. As it turns out, neither of those assertions were accurate.

The New York Times, the worldwide news agency Agence France-Presse (AFP), Wired Magazine, the New York City Council had all previously reported the location of the supposedly super secret counter terrorism center on their public web sites: 55 Broadway in the bowels of the financial district. What was a secret about the operation, and not reported by 60 Minutes to its viewers, despite being well aware of the facts, is that the center is jointly staffed and operated by the NYPD along with the largest Wall Street firms – the same firms under investigation in 50 states for mortgage and foreclosure fraud and widely credited with causing the Nation’s economic collapse. The Wall Street firms that were involuntarily bailed out by the 99% are now policing the 99%.

In a telephone conversation with the co-producer of the program, Robert Anderson, he conceded that he was aware of the presence of the Wall Street firms in the center. It would have been hard to miss them. The facility is designed with three long rows of computer workstations. The outside of each cubicle bears a brass plaque with the names of the occupants: Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, JPMorganChase, etc.

You won’t find photographs showing these firms in the surveillance center in any U.S. corporate news outlet, but a foreign news service has them openly displayed ( http://www.eastnews.pl/pictures/subject/id/00935088/section/news/page/1/ ) – a news organization servicing countries of the former Soviet Union. These photos were taken during a large gathering of reporters and photographers at the invitation of the NYPD. As shown in the photos, the event was hosted by Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly. Very secret counter terrorism operation, indeed, with global reporters and photographers coming and going in both 2010 and 2011.

More at link.

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http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/02052010/watch3.html

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February 5, 2010

Pediatrician Margaret Flowers speaks about protesting for change and her recent arrest in an effort to get a Medicare-for-all plan back on the table.


BILL MOYERS: Make me an offer I can't refuse. That's what President Obama said, when he talks about health care reform during his State of the Union last week.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: If anyone from either party has a better approach that will bring down premiums, bring down the deficit, cover the uninsured, strengthen medicare for seniors and stop insurance company abuses, let me know. Let me know. Let me know. I'm eager to see it.

BILL MOYERS: Dr. Margaret Flowers took him at his word.

MALE VOICE: Can I help you?

DR. MARGARET FLOWERS: Well, last night the President gave his State of the Union address, and I'm a physician. I'm the Congressional Fellow with Physicians for National Health Program.

BILL MOYERS: The very next day she was outside the White House with a letter urging the President to revive the idea of single-payer healthcare. Medicare for all.

MALE VOICE: We can't accept anything, so you'll have to send it through the mail.

BILL MOYERS: The Secret Service turned Dr. Flowers away, but she didn't give up. She tried again the next day in Baltimore, where once again, President Obama made his offer to hear ideas on health reform and once again, she tried to deliver her letter.

DR. MARGARET FLOWERS: Is there somebody here who's in charge that can have somebody who's a representative of the President, come and take this?

BILL MOYERS: This time, she and her colleague, Dr. Carol Paris, refused to move when security told them to, because Dr. Flowers said, "We didn't want to continue to be excluded, marginalized and ignored."

They were arrested.

More at link.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
6. This is why, within the Occupy movement, everyone must agree to complete nonviolence in all actions.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:00 PM
Feb 2012

The best thing would be to do as the LA group did and train everyone very carefully in the techniques of nonviolence.

Violent protest will just result in alienating rational people. Nonviolence is what won the day for Martin Luther King's movement.

In my opinion, the Black Panthers and other violent, radical groups helped to bring on 30 years of extreme right-wing government.

Violence frightens ordinary people. The moment any violence of any kind is allowed within the ranks of demonstrators for the Occupy movement, the movement will face repression and fail.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
12. They do
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:28 PM
Feb 2012

The occupy movement has done a great job of educating and training people who come to the movement.

The people who need to be trained are the ones reading the news and falling for every hit piece about occupy, the ones who so easily believe that everyone who says they are with occupy really are.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
14. There are so many negative reports about the Oakland Occupy.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:02 PM
Feb 2012

The reports about other groups are very positive.

I suspect that the situation in Oakland is violent because of a long history of excessive use of force by police.

What is your explanation for the particularly bad press for Oakland? Is the violence just imagined? Is it extremely exaggerated?

The problem is that the press seizes on the exceptional, but dramatic act of violence, so one violent act is heard around the world.

Occupiers have to make sure that the sound heard around the world is about the police repression, not about occupier violence. That's my view. It takes a lot of self-control.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
8. excellent articles folks.. important thread..
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 11:22 PM
Feb 2012

old tactics, the OWS are a new generation and probably largely unaware of the history of co-intel pro, now armed with high tech and an entirely owned media.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
9. Look back in history and see it has always been so
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:37 AM
Feb 2012

They have years of experience doing it and a large infrastructure to pull it off.
And every incident no matter how small or how phony it is is picked up by the press and the right wing noise machine and propagated far and wide.
And they always have been able to suppress and compromise the movement.
It must be remembered that Gandhi took decades to finally win and that is because of insisting on non violence and being persistent.
I hope the young people learn from history and can be persistent and commit themselves to non violence and find a way to deal with the agent provocateurs they will find among them...
K&R for it's importance.

EmeraldCityGrl

(4,310 posts)
13. My Experience
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:05 PM
Feb 2012

Between Christmas and New Years I had a neighborhood party.
We are a diverse group and have found common ground on a
variety of issues and projects for the sake of our neighborhood
community.

One of the couples that showed up I know from working on our
local pea patch. He works for Homeland Security. That's about
the extent of what I know about him. My husband, this guy and
few others were in the kitchen telling jokes and as he got louder
and louder you could tell he was smashed. His wife kept suggesting
that they take off but he wasn't going anywhere. At some point he
starts telling us about what he's currently working on. Apparently
he's been dressing in his perception of a Occupy Seattle supporter
carrying a sign and in his words "looking for subversives." He then
pulls out his cell phone and proceeds to show us pictures of him
@OS doing just that.

There's more to this I'm not getting into on a public board.
That evening I couldn't help but wonder if Homeland Security infiltrated
the Teabaggers. I don't know why these things still stun me but
they do.

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