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elleng

(130,902 posts)
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:02 PM Nov 2016

How the Internet Is Loosening Our Grip on the Truth

'Next week, if all goes well, someone will win the presidency. What happens after that is anyone’s guess. Will the losing side believe the results? Will the bulk of Americans recognize the legitimacy of the new president? And will we all be able to clean up the piles of lies, hoaxes and other dung that have been hurled so freely in this hyper-charged, fact-free election?

Much of that remains unclear, because the internet is distorting our collective grasp on the truth. Polls show that many of us have burrowed into our own echo chambers of information. In a recent Pew Research Center survey, 81 percent of respondents said that partisans not only differed about policies, but also about “basic facts.”

For years, technologists and other utopians have argued that online news would be a boon to democracy. That has not been the case.

More than a decade ago, as a young reporter covering the intersection of technology and politics, I noticed the opposite. The internet was filled with 9/11 truthers, and partisans who believed against all evidence that George W. Bush stole the 2004 election from John Kerry, or that Barack Obama was a foreign-born Muslim. (He was born in Hawaii and is a practicing Christian.)

Of course, America has long been entranced by conspiracy theories. But the online hoaxes and fringe theories appeared more virulent than their offline predecessors. They were also more numerous and more persistent. During Mr. Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign, every attempt to debunk the birther rumor seemed to raise its prevalence online.

In a 2008 book, I argued that the internet would usher in a “post-fact” age. Eight years later, in the death throes of an election that features a candidate who once led the campaign to lie about President Obama’s birth, there is more reason to despair about truth in the online age.

Why? Because if you study the dynamics of how information moves online today, pretty much everything conspires against truth.'>>>

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/03/technology/how-the-internet-is-loosening-our-grip-on-the-truth.html?

Nothing like 'progress.'

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PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. I find it much easier to find the truth now, as I can go direct to the source for many things
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:19 PM
Nov 2016

instead of having to accept someone's filtered version.

Igel

(35,306 posts)
4. yes.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 08:06 PM
Nov 2016

There's that. If you look.

But for many, any source they agreed with is reliable. So-and-so makes a claim and there's no filter. "He did this," but one never sees the counterclaim. It's like a trial where 6 jurors hear only defense and 6 only hear prosecution. Each heard straight from the source but the result is worse than what a reader of newspaper coverage would get.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
2. For a chilling article on how the alt-right spreads disinformation on the Internet
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:21 PM
Nov 2016

read this recent New Yorker piece. It not only exposes the strategies they use, but explains how and how far the breakdown of trust in "reliable sources" has become.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/31/trolls-for-trump

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
3. I think the internet is making it easier for the average person to find legitimate information that
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 04:56 PM
Nov 2016


debunks the disinformation which makes up much of what passes for news on network tv. Of course, it takes more effort than just sitting there and listening to the Network tv talking head.

I think it makes possible a much more effective checking of the assertions made by politicians or groups.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
5. We tend to seek information that confirms what we believe
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 10:58 AM
Nov 2016

We ALL do this, right and left.

We are no different here.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
8. Funny thing is that when Raul Castro says something like this he is roundly excoriated...
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:21 AM
Nov 2016

... as USAID disinformation networks were revealed (Alan Gross).


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