"A nation can survive its' fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.

[elleng]

An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor--He speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation--he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city--he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared."

Cicero, 42 B.C., Roman Statesman, orator, and author

[Phoenix61]

1. Wow! Just wow! n/t

[Stuart G]

2. Yes, some ancient philosophers had a whole lot to say..and their truth stands the test of time...

[Stuart G]

3. So...here is another worth thinking about...Lyistrata

Lysistrata.. is a comedy by Aristophanes.... Originally performed in classical Athens in 411 BCE, it is a comic account of a woman's extraordinary mission to end the Peloponnesian War by denying all the men of the land any sex, which was the only thing they truly and deeply desired.

Lysistrata persuades the women of Greece to withhold sexual privileges from their husbands and lovers as a means of forcing the men to negotiate peace—a strategy, however, that inflames the battle between the sexes. The play is notable for being an early exposé of sexual relations in a male-dominated society. Additionally, its dramatic structure represents a shift from the conventions of Old Comedy, a trend typical of the author's career.[2] It was produced in the same year as the Thesmophoriazusae, another play with a focus on gender-based issues, just two years after Athens' catastrophic defeat in the Sicilian Expedition. At this time, Greek theatre was a profound form of entertainment, which was extremely popular for all audiences as it addressed political issues relevant to that time.
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I wonder if all the women in the world ...all..denied sex to all men..who fight war....would that be something??
I don't know. Probably just a lot more violence against women...

[Solly Mack]

4. K&R

[Nitram]

5. The US can survive tresason from within if it is only everyone in the Trump administration.

If it includes a majority in both houses of Congress, we are indeed deeply in trouble.

[dalton99a]

6. Cicero spoke from experience