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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 08:45 AM Sep 2017

The 2016 election was not a fluke - By Eugene Robinson

By Eugene Robinson Opinion writer September 18 at 7:46 PM

Leaders of both major parties are wrong to think of the 2016 election as some kind of fluke. I believe a political realignment is underway, and those who fail to discern its outlines could end up powerless and irrelevant.

With all respect to Hillary Clinton, her newly published memoir, “What Happened,” doesn’t really tell what happened. It is perhaps inevitable that she would focus on the daily twists and turns of the campaign. It is understandable that she would blame James B. Comey, Vladimir Putin and the media for damaging her prospects — and that she would play down her own strategic and tactical missteps.

But take a step back and look at the election through a wider lens. Clinton, with all her vast experience and proven ability, was defeated by Donald Trump, a reality-television star who had never before run for office, displayed near-total ignorance of the issues, broke every rule of political rhetoric and was caught on videotape bragging of how he sexually assaulted random women by grabbing their crotches.

That’s not just unlikely, it’s impossible. At least it should have been, according to everything we knew — or thought we knew — about politics. Yes, Comey’s last-minute revival of Clinton’s email scandal robbed her of momentum. Yes, her neglect of the Rust Belt was a terrible mistake. Yes, the Russians were working hard to defeat her, with the blessing — and at least the attempted collusion — of the Trump campaign. But the election never should have been close enough for relatively minor voting shifts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania to elect the likes of Trump. The election never should have been close enough for Clinton to lose Florida and barely eke out a win in Virginia.

In retrospect, the alarming possibility of an election-night surprise should have been apparent. Trump never should have won the Republican nomination over a field that included so many talented politicians. And Clinton never should have had to work so hard to win the Democratic nomination over Bernie Sanders, an aging socialist from Vermont who wasn’t even a Democrat until he entered the race.

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Botany

(70,501 posts)
4. And it was down ticket races too.
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 09:01 AM
Sep 2017

Russ Feingold was @ >90% chance of winning back his senate seat in WI. The republicans and the
Trump people working in conjunction w/the Russians to rig our elections. How did McConnell know
that he would have a different person to vote for the SCOTUS after the election?

BTW https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
5. You are missing the point
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 09:52 AM
Sep 2017

The point is, he shouldn't have even made it out of the primaries, he should have been this year's Herman Cain. If he did make it out of the primaries, the election should not have been close enough to steal, Hillary should have won in a huge landsllide. Trump should not have a 35-40% approval rating right now, it should be 20%. And even with all that, even if the election was stolen, a socialist from Vermont should not have been able to almost beat Clinton.

There is a need in the electorate that Trump and Sanders are filling, however imperfectly. Until Democrats figure a better way to meet that need, we will continue to lose. Although I do think we will figure it out.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
2. He is right, there is an realignment
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 08:55 AM
Sep 2017

And the ongoing Bernie-Hillary wars reflect that. The fight is not about who should keep their mouth shut, but about what the Democratic Party of the future will look like.

world wide wally

(21,742 posts)
6. The single most important factor in all of this is the the right wing is getting their voters out
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 10:23 AM
Sep 2017

and we're not.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
7. I'm going to go out on a limb here.
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 10:46 AM
Sep 2017

I think everyone is missing the point.

There actually is no longer any pattern. Everyone is looking for a pattern and everyone finds a different one because there is no pattern other than what exists in the mind of the pattern seeker.

Campaigns have been about pandering to individual voters for so long that every voter is voting based on individual self interest, and there is no pattern to individual self interest.

"Hillary will carry the blacks?" Not if the black worked in a factory and is now laid off.

"Hillary will carry Hispanics?" Not the Hispanics whose relatives were deported in record numbers by the Obama administration.

This country is not polarized left to right, or rich to poor, or city to rural. It is polarized in all those ways. It is polarized in 310 million ways of "me."

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
12. What about the apathetic and the willfully ignorant. Those two groups chose not to vote at all!
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 02:04 PM
Sep 2017

Half of the Americans did not even know that the ACA IS Obamacare. Face it, Americans know and care more about celebrities than any politician...the culture has become apathetic and dare I say STUPID, especially when it applies to politics. Fux News keeps them that way. This is the new (last 30 years) American culture. Oh joy!

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
13. don't forget the cable media gave Trump unlimited time to spread his populist talk
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 04:12 PM
Sep 2017

which appears to have been lies
If a politician lies and no one calls him out, well what do you get. Trumped

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
15. Morning Joe should take a bow on that front! NOW they complain about TrumP loudly.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 12:50 PM
Sep 2017

Now they are sadly shaking their heads. Well, Mika and Joe, what the f*** were you doing having Trump on every week to showcase his "new ideas" and getting all excited?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
14. I'm not convinced by his reading of the direction of the parties
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 06:51 PM
Sep 2017

"Are the parties adapting? Democrats seem to be inching toward support of truly universal health care, while Republicans have thus far thought better of taking health insurance away from millions of people. Perhaps this is a start."

A bare minimum of Republican senators have thought better - just enough to join the Democrats to block - while the vast majority of Republicans in Congress are desperate to take it away. Compared to them, the Democrats are charging towards a change in position, ie fully universal health care.

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