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hatrack

(59,593 posts)
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:10 AM Feb 2018

David Brooks (What An Asshole): We Need To Let Red America Lead On Guns

The enduring mystery: why this guy keeps getting paid for dogshit columns like this.

EDIT

So if you want to stop school shootings it’s not enough just to vent and march. It’s necessary to let people from Red America lead the way, and to show respect to gun owners at all points. There has to be trust and respect first. Then we can strike a compromise on guns as guns, and not some sacred cross in the culture war.

So I’ve been thinking about a group that’s in the trust and respect business. Better Angels is a nonprofit led by David Lapp, David Blankenhorn and a prominent family therapist, Bill Doherty. The team members travel from town to town finding members of the Red and Blue Tribes and bringing them together for long, humbling conversations.

My Times colleague April Lawson has gotten involved with Better Angels and has been reporting back on its techniques. One of the most successful parts of the structured conversations is built around stereotypes. Doherty, the head moderator, asks the people at each gathering to name five major stereotypes that the other side throws at them. The Republicans invariably list “racist” first, followed by, say, “uncaring,” “uneducated,” “misogynistic” and “science deniers.”

In a session Lawson attended, a Trump supporter acknowledged that the G.O.P. has had a spotty record on racial matters, but it’s important to him that Blues know that’s not why he holds his opinions.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/19/opinion/parkland-gun-control-shootings.html

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David Brooks (What An Asshole): We Need To Let Red America Lead On Guns (Original Post) hatrack Feb 2018 OP
Why does the NYTimes Ohiogal Feb 2018 #1
Letting Red America lead on guns is what got us into this mess in the first place. LonePirate Feb 2018 #2
Let Republican politicians lead on most issues is why Dems are minority yurbud Feb 2018 #10
Thank god that guy's a PROMINENT family therapist underpants Feb 2018 #3
The 5 major stereotypes Freddie Feb 2018 #4
We need to let David Brooks wander off and get lost. Nitram Feb 2018 #5
David Brooks is pond scum. Paladin Feb 2018 #6
For an encore, Brooks is going to wonder Blue_Tires Feb 2018 #7
response from mediamatters Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #8
fuck gun humping cowards Skittles Feb 2018 #9

Ohiogal

(32,101 posts)
1. Why does the NYTimes
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:16 AM
Feb 2018

continue to print this guy's drivel?

Oh, the poor widdle gun humping snowflakes. We big bad elitist liberals don't respect their beliefs! We have to show that we respect them before we start a conversation, now?

Fuck them! It's past time for namby pamby "conversations"! We need ACTION! We need sensible gun control laws NOW!

Freddie

(9,275 posts)
4. The 5 major stereotypes
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:32 AM
Feb 2018

Are 100% correct! He's the "intellectual conservative" who managers to write a column with a lot of big words to justify the party line. At least he uses good grammar and spelling.

Nitram

(22,898 posts)
5. We need to let David Brooks wander off and get lost.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:51 AM
Feb 2018

Gun owners in red states have had plenty of opportunities to "lead the way." They always lead in the direction of more guns in the hands of more people without any acountability.

Paladin

(28,276 posts)
6. David Brooks is pond scum.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:51 AM
Feb 2018

His writing abilities are down at Peggy Noonan level. His half-assed attempts to put a respectable face on right-wing drivel never ever succeed. And what he's doing on the NYT editorial page, raking in millions every year for his bullshit, is a complete and utter mystery to me.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
7. For an encore, Brooks is going to wonder
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 02:00 PM
Feb 2018

why battered wives don't let their husbands "take the lead" on improving marital relations by, you know, building up a dialogue of "trust and respect" on the two days a week when dear hubby is sober and isn't beating/raping/belittling/etc. his wife and kids...

After all, the abusive husband has feelings too and the last thing anyone in his household would want to do is hurt his feelings, right?

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,462 posts)
8. response from mediamatters
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 07:56 PM
Feb 2018
https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/02/20/David-Brooks-needs-to-shut-up/219430


David Brooks needs to shut up

David Brooks is back on his bullshit. Ever since Donald Trump was elected president, the New York Times columnist has become an outspoken proponent of ideologically vacant centrism as the one and only solution to toxic partisanship and intractable tribalism. The fact that “the center” of Brooks’ dreams has no political appeal, no coherent philosophy, and no agenda beyond tongue-clucking rebukes of partisanship is of no concern to him; it can and will fix everything simply by scolding everyone in Washington to be polite to one another.

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Skittles

(153,204 posts)
9. fuck gun humping cowards
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 09:54 PM
Feb 2018

Last edited Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:19 PM - Edit history (1)

we have been listening to their sorry asses for FAR TOO LONG NOW

the fact is, Red America *HAS* "led on guns" - THAT'S WHY WE HAVE CONSTANT MASS SHOOTINGS

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