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appalachiablue

(41,171 posts)
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 01:35 AM Nov 2018

Amid Brexit Chaos, Britain's Political System Finally Implodes, Dilemma

Amid Brexit Chaos, Britain's Political System Finally Implodes. A second referendum could help ease the problem, but what Britain really needs is a radical economic transformation. By Nick Dearden, Common Dreams, Nov. 18, 2018. *Excerpts:

Theresa May surely by now symbolises the phrase "bad day at the office". On Wednesday night, having spent months negotiating the deal by which Britain will leave the European Union next March, May had a grueling five-hour meeting with her cabinet. That evening, she told the nation that agreement had been reached, though with reservations.



Britain is now in its deepest political crisis since the World War II. May's deal seems all but dead, as there is no viable way for it to pass through parliament. How did it come to this? The British establishment has always been deeply divided on the EU. Part of our elite came to terms with the "loss" of empire and saw Britain's future as being part of Europe.

But others, taught from the cradle that they were born to run the world, cannot accept a reduction in British power. To them, Europe is an affront, a protectionist, bureaucratic nightmare, and they are desperate to reclaim their birthright, in alliance with the United States, to use Britain's financial muscle to rule the world once more.

Today, with no majority in parliament, dependent on a group of far-right ultra-Brexiteers from the north of Ireland, May is unable to ignore any one faction of her party. The daughter of a vicar, she assumes hard work will pay off. But it doesn't, because the problem is insoluble. She cannot move forward, but she also cannot be replaced, because her party's warring factions will not be able to agree on a successor.

That's why this week's withdrawal deal, laying out the terms of Brexit, and the "political declaration" setting out objectives for a future relationship with the EU, in fact, leave us in the dark about our post-Brexit relationship with the EU. Unsurprisingly, this doesn't please those who wanted to remain in the EU. But it also doesn't please the Brexiteers who want to use Brexit to unleash a wave of deregulation and liberalisation, most notably through trade deals.

On Thursday, May was attacked by remainers who want a second referendum, and from so-called "hard Brexiteers" who want to drop out of the EU with no deal at all. But there is another element to the Brexit debate which has made it peculiarly toxic and difficult to navigate. In order to win the referendum, the Brexiteers needed to do more than mobilise right-wing voters who hate foreigners.

They also had to tap into a deep dissatisfaction in post-industrial parts of England and Wales, areas which have been marginalised and hollowed out by four decades of free-market economic policy. Communities fed up with being ignored, and who feel they were sold out by the previous Labour Party governments, individuals who wanted to stick two fingers up at the centre-right politicians which ran the "remain" campaign.

It's this aspect of Brexit which makes it more than a peculiarly British problem, and which locates the crisis firmly within the much broader and deeper crisis which has gripped capitalism since the financial crash of 2008. It should be unsurprising that this political crisis, which has spread to the US, southern and now central Europe, saw its first flashpoint in Britain, which practically invented neoliberalism.

This is a crisis of inequality, poverty, the gradual abolition of democracy, of a corporate economy out of control. When frustration and anger like this have no outlet, no obvious means of remedy, then migrants and foreigners become easy targets. - MORE...

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2018/11/18/amid-brexit-chaos-britains-political-system-finally-implodes

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Amid Brexit Chaos, Britain's Political System Finally Implodes, Dilemma (Original Post) appalachiablue Nov 2018 OP
Meanwhile ... President Putin Says ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #1
Here's the problem I see Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #2
Yes but....can't the guilt be painted pretzel4gore Nov 2018 #3
Yes, but likely only once anarchy and mass KPN Nov 2018 #4
Maybe we must take a new look at hushstory! pretzel4gore Nov 2018 #8
A second vote would seemingly go a long way vanlassie Nov 2018 #5
Perspectives on Ireland Brexit & the rise of English nationalism: appalachiablue Nov 2018 #6
Perspectives from labor: appalachiablue Nov 2018 #7

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
2. Here's the problem I see
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 02:00 AM
Nov 2018

Last I checked, only about 20 +/- Tory MPs have signed the No Confidence letter, so there's no call (as of today at least) for a General Election or, at a minimum, to try to allow someone else to form a new government. They have basically 3 months +/- to figure this out.
Even if they call for elections. Even if they call for a new referendum. Do they have time? Will the EU call timeout? Can Britain reverse course even if it wants to?

And then there is Ireland and Irish backstop. If the current deal fails (looks likely) and the May government stays in power (looks maybe likely) then they have to either work out a new deal or we have a hard Brexit and trade chaos. What happens at the Northern Ireland border is anyone's guess, but it's a safe bet peace is in deep trouble.

You have to wonder what Scotland will ultimately do as well. If I were a betting man, I'd say they leave and rejoin the EU.

 

pretzel4gore

(8,146 posts)
3. Yes but....can't the guilt be painted
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 04:19 AM
Nov 2018

On the guilty? Can't the innocent desperate/foreign/ poor/ alien, who were also victims of the reactionary economic schemes that. are clearly the problem, only further down the food chain... cannot fascism's control of media be...can a free press be started?
Can't political criminals like Murdoch be held accountable?

 

pretzel4gore

(8,146 posts)
8. Maybe we must take a new look at hushstory!
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 01:43 PM
Nov 2018

Our entire social/political mileau can be described as 'managed' insofar as lying fake conmen seized control of the high ground a long time ago, indeed during feudalism. ...its said you can build a mansion using pieces of the 'true cross' (that being how fake the entire religious phenomena was)...society accomodating endless lies have made truth a long shot- and the result? The example that really bugs me is the fraudulent oil gas industry. Criminals sabotaged the human races technology development to create dependence on fossil fuels (which they got free outta the ground)..they buried electric car, they froze out compressed air power storage, lighter-then-air ships, and god knows what else. The fascists are stuck; either let truth free, or hang onto mass media until ma nature kicks us, life itself, to the kerb

vanlassie

(5,683 posts)
5. A second vote would seemingly go a long way
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 01:53 PM
Nov 2018

towards refocusing people. A second opinion on whether to whack off a healthy leg seems a no brainer. Sigh.

appalachiablue

(41,171 posts)
6. Perspectives on Ireland Brexit & the rise of English nationalism:
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 05:17 PM
Nov 2018

"Don’t Blame the Irish: the Brexit Chaos Is All About England," by Fintan O'Toole. The rise of English nationalism has left Britain deeply uncertain about its identity and place in the world. The Guardian, Nov. 19, 2018.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/19/dont-blame-irish-brexit-chaos-england-nationalism

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