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(47,474 posts)
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 11:25 PM Nov 2018

Trump's Crude Realpolitik - WSJ Editorial

Mr. Trump did himself and the country no favor with his crude statement Tuesday on the U.S. relationship with Saudi Arabia in the aftermath of Jamal Khashoggi’s murder by Saudi agents. Commenting on whether Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman knew about the murder, Mr. Trump said in a statement only he could have written: “Maybe he did and maybe he didn’t!”

We are unsure of the purpose of the exclamation point here, just as we are unsure what goal Mr. Trump hoped to achieve with what can only be described as a raw and brutalist version of foreign-policy realpolitik.

The bloody realities of the Middle East and the clear threat from Iran, which Mr. Trump described in his statement, give any U.S. President some latitude in forging a policy toward the region that reflects America’s interests. But we are aware of no President, not even such ruthless pragmatists as Richard Nixon or Lyndon Johnson, who would have written a public statement like this without so much as a grace note about America’s abiding values and principles. Ronald Reagan especially pursued a hard-line, often controversial, foreign policy against Soviet Communism, but he did so with a balance of unblinkered realism and American idealism. Mr. Trump seems incapable of such balance.

It is startling to see a U.S. President brag in a statement about a bloodthirsty murder that, in his “heavily negotiated trip to Saudi Arabia” last year, he did $450 billion in commercial deals, including $110 billion to benefit Boeing , Lockheed Martin , Raytheon and “many other great defense contractors.” From Mr. Trump’s point of view, U.S. interests in the Middle East can be reduced to arms deals, oil and Iran. That is crass; no other word suffices.

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That too is bad judgment that should raise doubts about the Crown Prince’s reliability and effectiveness as an ally. The risk is that Mr. Trump’s public reduction of the relationship to crass interests is that the Crown Prince will feel he can do anything and suffer no diminution of U.S. support. We hope Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and National Security Adviser John Bolton are delivering a much tougher message in private... The reality is that few members of Congress will align themselves with a statement bereft of asserting America’s abhorrence for the murder of political opponents. Without political or public support, Mr. Trump diminishes the odds that his Middle East strategy will succeed.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-crude-realpolitik-1542763629 (paid subscription)

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No, the WSJ will not call for his removal, but our candidate should be able to quote from the above during the 2020 campaign. These do not come from the "liberal media."

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Trump's Crude Realpolitik - WSJ Editorial (Original Post) question everything Nov 2018 OP
This seems like more, "Please put lipstick on your pig, Mr. President." violetpastille Nov 2018 #1
I know. This is why I hope that our candidates will be able to "cut and paste" question everything Nov 2018 #2
The WSJ editorial page makes my blood boil SCantiGOP Nov 2018 #3
As corrupt as trump and jared and this prince are, duforsure Nov 2018 #4

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
1. This seems like more, "Please put lipstick on your pig, Mr. President."
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 11:45 PM
Nov 2018
The risk is that Mr. Trump’s public reduction of the relationship to crass interests is that the Crown Prince will feel he can do anything and suffer no diminution of U.S. support.


Will feel? Does feel.

If Trump would keep his yap closed Lindsay Graham wouldn't have to run around with a mop and a bucket and swearing to "sanction the hell" out of Saudi Arabia. If only Trump would give some lip service to life and liberty and Reagan it up a little. Put some mascara and a wig on it and make it look pretty.

Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia clearly doesn't give a shit.

question everything

(47,474 posts)
2. I know. This is why I hope that our candidates will be able to "cut and paste"
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 11:51 PM
Nov 2018

and say: this is what the WSJ said!

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
3. The WSJ editorial page makes my blood boil
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:10 AM
Nov 2018

But they are not stupid people. They fully understand how much damage he is doing to this country - to its economy, institutions and foreign relations. They just can’t come right out and say it.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
4. As corrupt as trump and jared and this prince are,
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 08:26 AM
Nov 2018

If fully investigated they will be found I think to have committed many crimes, including shaking down companies for campaign contributions for trump to then funnel to himself and jared from deals they got, and business deals, and probably more loans, wink , wink. Trump saying maybe he did or maybe he didn't will come back to haunt him also when he knew he did it.

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