A Biden-Romney Centrist Fantasy Ticket So Ain't Happening
5:56 P.M.
By Ed Kilgore
As should be apparent by now, Donald Trumps election in 2016 convinced a lot of people that absolutely anything in presidential politics is now possible. That includes really strange things like a candidacy for the lawyer of a porn star whos suing the current incumbent; a Democratic field that includes multiple preening billionaires; and all sorts of unlikely scenarios involving GOP primary challenges to the figure who stands athwart his party like a colossus. So its no big surprise that the Trump era is producing a revival of the ancient fantasy of a centrist third-party ticket that will sweep away the warring tribes of left and right and elevate a Government of National Salvation that will do serious adult things like cutting Social Security benefits.
The latest version of this fantasy comes to us from the imagination of Juleanna Glover, a veteran Republican campaign operative who appears to have ascended into the stratosphere of Beltway insiders who form bipartisan lobbying shops and fête each other in the cramped and self-regarding Washington social scene (better known as the site of the legendary Georgetown cocktail parties where all the sharp edges of politics are softened). To her credit, Glover isnt promoting some abstract third party of sensible centrists, but a very specific 2020 coalition to be led by Joe Biden:
The Democratic primary is shaping up to be cacophonous and chaotic. Biden should capitalize on his status as one of Americas most popular politicians, skip the risk and potential indignities of running and losing in what will be a vicious and mulish, leftward-lurching primary, and slingshot straight to the general election debate stage on a third-party ticket.
Her model is the hypothetical 2008 McCain-Lieberman ticket that the late Arizonan regretted not insisting upon. Glover doesnt mention that this failed to happen not because McCain didnt pursue it but because he was reliably informed it would have turned his nominating convention into a seething snake pit of recriminations. But lets put that aside for a moment and let her riff:
Biden could run as the major third-party candidate with a principled conservative by his side (Lieberman, a one-time Democrat, technically categorized himself as an independent at the time McCain ran for president). A number of Republicans stand out: Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse, outgoing Ohio Gov. John Kasich and newly minted Utah Sen. Mitt Romney.
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lark
(23,097 posts)But then I'm a Democrat so don't want oligarchs Mitt with one bullet between him and the presidency. Biden is very viable as a General candidate and I think he'll come out on top in the primaries. This article is stupid, just trying to hurt the Democrats, but Joe is way smarter than that, and so are we.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)lark
(23,097 posts)Biden will pick a younger Democrat as his running mate. Romney would be a no-good, horrible choice and one he'd never make.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)lark
(23,097 posts)They are just Reupug rat-fucking fishing expeditions.
Edit - fixed typo
Autumn
(45,066 posts)I'm a Democrat and I don't vote for Republicans.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)This article is not proposing such a ticket, it's saying, "it ain't going to happen."
Autumn
(45,066 posts)for some republicans panic seems to be setting in. The words principled and conservative don't belong on the same page and certainly not in the same sentence.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)I about fell out of my chair the other day when I saw the Biden/Romney ticket proposal. I was really happy to see Kilgore's article.
Ed Kilgore's last paragraph in the article sums it up quite nicely IMO (emphasis added)
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,983 posts)aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)with Beto vs. Nicki on the undercard.
BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)He was a great VP with Prez O, but he is getting up there age-wise and some of us will never forget his role in tarnishing Anita Hill and ensuring the confirmation of Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court. Those actions have had long-lasting consequences for our democracy.
Scruffy1
(3,256 posts)I have never seen any evidence that the Vp pick makes any difference. Voters could care less about the VP slot. Nixon chose Agnew and quipped that it made him safe from assassination. Roosevelt took Cactus Jack who was drunk. McCain chose Palin. It's a useless job with no power. The problem with Joe as candidate is he is old and has too much experience. I have no problem with this, but when voters want change they are looking for a fresh face and the longer you are around the more baggage you pick up. About any candidate mentioned would be better than what we have. Sometimes we political junkies forget that we are not the norm. Most of the public pays little attention except to sports and entertainment. A fresh face attracts at least some curiosity. I don't mean that the fresh face would be know to us political jumkies, but someone who has not held national office. In the meantime, the primaries are coming, and it time for all the candidates to get their rear in gear. I think it will be exciting to have a big field to sift through.