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Donkees

(31,499 posts)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:34 AM Feb 2019

Bernie Sanders Uses Rebuttal To Fact-Check Trump's State Of The Union Speech

02/06/2019 12:45 am ET

By Carla Herreria

Excerpt:

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) delivered a rebuttal to President Donald Trump’s State of the Union address on Tuesday with a 30-minute speech that meticulously picked apart what Trump got wrong and the things he felt the president had failed to mention. “I hate to say this, but not everything Donald Trump said tonight was true or accurate,” Sanders said at the top of his speech after offering his congratulations to Georgia Democrat Stacey Abrams, who delivered the Democratic rebuttal.

In his response, Sanders noted that Trump did not mention climate change, Medicare, voter suppression or Social Security ― issues that the senator said all Americans, not just Trump’s “billionaire friends,” face. “For many of President Trump’s billionaire friends, the truth is, they have never, ever had it so good,” he said. “But for the middle class and the working families of our country, the truth is that the economy is not so great.”

Sanders pointed out that Trump did not mention in detail the challenges facing “ordinary Americans,” including health care costs, low wages and unaffordable rent.

“Trump said tonight, ‘We are born free, and we will stay free.’ Well, I say to President Trump: People are not truly free when they can’t afford to go to the doctor when they are sick. They are not truly free when they cannot afford to buy the prescription drugs they so desperately need. People are not truly free when they are exhausted because they are working longer and longer hours for lower wages.

“People are not truly free when they cannot afford a decent place in which to live. People certainly are not free when they cannot afford to feed their families.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-trump-sotu-fact-check_us_5c5a148fe4b0871047588416






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Bernie Sanders Uses Rebuttal To Fact-Check Trump's State Of The Union Speech (Original Post) Donkees Feb 2019 OP
I like Bernie Dead_Parrot Feb 2019 #1
+1 rampartc Feb 2019 #2
It's annoying... Dead_Parrot Feb 2019 #4
Meyer London was another socialist in Congress and influenced the New Deal Donkees Feb 2019 #6
Sigh... Dead_Parrot Feb 2019 #7
I love Bernie !!! SamKnause Feb 2019 #3
Sounds a lot like FDR Luka Boyd Feb 2019 #5
And the fifth is... Dead_Parrot Feb 2019 #8
I love his passion, no one talks about income inequality like Bernie. Bluepinky Feb 2019 #9
+1 n/t Dead_Parrot Feb 2019 #10
Bernie was Great ZapataViva Feb 2019 #11
Welcome to DU :) Donkees Feb 2019 #12
Bernie ZapataViva Feb 2019 #13
Yes, welcome to DU. 1972 was my first time I got to vote too (Democratic, of course) stuffmatters Feb 2019 #14

Dead_Parrot

(14,478 posts)
1. I like Bernie
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:43 AM
Feb 2019

Maybe I'm another old-school lefty fossil.

And maybe he needs to pass the baton on.

But he's not wrong.

rampartc

(5,449 posts)
2. +1
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:58 AM
Feb 2019

bernie has been a better democrat than many who claim the title, and last night was no exception.

ms abrams also did a great job.

Dead_Parrot

(14,478 posts)
4. It's annoying...
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 08:19 AM
Feb 2019

...That Bernie gets slapped down for being "socialist"

I come from the UK. I live in NZ. both of those these have "socialist" healthcare. A few months ago I spent a week in hospital:

I didn't need to be there. My "co-pay" was a pack of smokes and a lotto ticket.

Imagine what your hospital would charge for an MRI:

I bought a lotto ticket to fill in the time. I didn't win. MRI cost me $2.

Donkees

(31,499 posts)
6. Meyer London was another socialist in Congress and influenced the New Deal
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 08:37 AM
Feb 2019
Meyer London, a Socialist Jew, was a politician who not only ran for Congress, but his economic proposals were advanced for his time, and they later were encompassed in Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal platform.

When Congressman Meyer London died in 1926, half a million New Yorkers attended his funeral. “For six hours,” the New York Times reported, “the Lower East Side put aside its duties, pressing or trivial, to do honor to its dead prophet.” Although a politician, London was so respected for his learning–even by his political opponents–that he was buried in the Writer’s Lane section of Mount Carmel cemetery, near the grave of Sholom Aleichem and other Jewish cultural heroes. London’s working-class instincts and intellectual acumen made him advocate for social legislation that later formed the heart of Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal platform.

London immediately sponsored bills which Congress defeated, yet later became integral elements of the New Deal program: minimum wage, unemployment insurance and increased taxes on the wealthy. He fought for then-radical ideals such as anti-lynching laws, higher immigration quotas, and paid maternity leave. Prescient in his own day, London’s economic proposals became right for the 1930’s and 40’s, and his civil rights proposals became law in the 1960’s.



https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/meyer-london-a-jew-in-congress/



Dead_Parrot

(14,478 posts)
7. Sigh...
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 09:07 AM
Feb 2019

...Between this, Donald Dump and the Tea thing we're getting slightly embarrassed.

To any First Nation People reading this:
Sorry dudes. We honestly didn't think they'd make it that far.

Our bad. Sorry.

Luka Boyd

(49 posts)
5. Sounds a lot like FDR
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 08:25 AM
Feb 2019

FDR's 4 freedoms speech:

In the future days, which we seek to make secure, we look forward to a world founded upon four essential human freedoms.
The first is freedom of speech and expression—everywhere in the world.
The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way—everywhere in the world.
The third is freedom from want—which, translated into world terms, means economic understandings which will secure to every nation a healthy peacetime life for its inhabitants—everywhere in the world.
The fourth is freedom from fear—which, translated into world terms, means a world-wide reduction of armaments to such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation will be in a position to commit an act of physical aggression against any neighbor—anywhere in the world.
That is no vision of a distant millennium.
It is a definite basis for a kind of world attainable in our own time and generation.
That kind of world is the very antithesis of the so-called new order of tyranny which the dictators seek to create with the crash of a bomb.

— Franklin D. Roosevelt, excerpted from the State of the Union Address to the Congress, January 6, 1941

Dead_Parrot

(14,478 posts)
8. And the fifth is...
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 09:22 AM
Feb 2019

...don't look at my tax returns or I'll destroy the country.

Or was that another one?

Bluepinky

(2,276 posts)
9. I love his passion, no one talks about income inequality like Bernie.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 09:54 AM
Feb 2019

The man knows his facts and statistics.

He did a good job conveying that Congress and President are not passing economic initiatives that the majority of Americans are in favor of.

 

ZapataViva

(60 posts)
11. Bernie was Great
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 01:28 PM
Feb 2019

Hello one and all, this is my first post! I'm a huge fan of Bernie Sanders, though I've been in the Democratic Party since 1972, the year I turned 18. I can get a bit edgy with my comments some time, especially in defense of my views, so I hope I don't get kicked off this forum too quickly. I've been a loyal Democrat my whole voting life, but saw in Bernie some fresh points of views--points of views that too many of our party leaders had seemingly forgotten.

Anyhow, to the subject, whereas Stacey Abrams gave a nice emotional response, Bernie filled in the gaps with his challenges to Trump's facts! His most effective comments IMO were his poll numbers that showed even GOPer rank and file supporting many of his "socialist" issues. I think Bernie has a good chance to win our nomination this time, though the MSM has already tried to disregard him.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
14. Yes, welcome to DU. 1972 was my first time I got to vote too (Democratic, of course)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 08:32 PM
Feb 2019

Viva Zapata...great movie!

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