Trump Wants to Abolish Birthright Citizenship. Can He Do That?
Source: New York Times
Trump Wants to Abolish Birthright Citizenship. Can He Do That?
The president reasserted his wish to do away with automatic citizenship for anyone born in the United States. Here is what he, legal experts and the Constitution have to say on the subject.
By Patrick J. Lyons
Published Aug. 22, 2019
Updated Aug. 23, 2019, 2:45 p.m. ET
The day after his administration unveiled a regulation that would allow it to indefinitely detain migrant families with children, President Trump also revived talk of a much more radical step: abolishing automatic American citizenship for anyone born in the United States.
Mr. Trump said on Wednesday that the rule, enshrined in the Constitution for more than 150 years and rooted in common law before that, was frankly ridiculous, and said the White House was looking very, very seriously at ending a policy that in the past he has called a magnet for illegal immigration.
Here is what you need to know about birthright citizenship and whether the president could put an end to it.
Does the Constitution guarantee birthright citizenship?
Yes. The 14th Amendment says, All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
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Can the president abolish it?
No. The president cannot amend the Constitution, and an executive order trying to end or restrict the right to citizenship of persons born in the United States would almost certainly be challenged in court as a violation of the 14th Amendment.
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Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/22/us/birthright-citizenship-14th-amendment-trump.html
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)he's never read the Constitution.
virgogal
(10,178 posts)CanonRay
(14,101 posts)You know, Mr. Only I Can Fix It.
aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)fixed that anomaly in the not distant past. Canada and the US are I believe,the only two developed countries which haven't.
msongs
(67,405 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,784 posts)to end citizenship of any kind as explained under the 14th Amendment.
Congress would have no choice but to seek impeachment and Republicans would be on notice for allowing and supporting such a Trump fiat.
virgogal
(10,178 posts)nothing about this stuff but could that be the sticking point? Again,I'm just curious.but that phrase might exclude tourists and visitors.
hedda_foil
(16,373 posts)virgogal
(10,178 posts)unblock
(52,208 posts)Both terms imply you're from somewhere else, which can't be a place you've never even been.
unblock
(52,208 posts)Really the only thin reed I see for them to stand on is "reside". But they would have to throw out centuries of jurisprudence to claim that undocumented immigrants don't reside here because they didn't fill out the right paperwork
malthaussen
(17,193 posts)eg, if you're born in Pennsylvania, you are a citizen of the US and Pennsylvania, and subject to the laws of the latter. This serves to prevent individual states from ginning up their own citizenship laws.
-- Mal
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)They claim that if the parents werent legal, they werent subject to our jurisdiction. Like foreign ambassadors arent prosecutable because they arent subject to our jurisdiction.
Eugene
(61,881 posts)It isn't. Foreign nationals on U.S. soil are subject to U.S. laws (with the narrow exception of diplomatic immunity). Undocumented status does not put people beyond the law's reach.
FBaggins
(26,732 posts)Eugene
(61,881 posts)The "subject" clause was the key point of United States v. Wong Kim Ark.
From the Wikipedia article:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark
NCjack
(10,279 posts)malthaussen
(17,193 posts)I'll do the NYT the courtesy of assuming it to be rhetorical.
Mr Trump can do whatever he damn well pleases. The question is whether or not he has the leverage to pull it off.
-- Mal