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Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:20 PM May 2020

Trump Will Lose in Landslide, Business Model Predicts, CNN Business:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/20/business/economy-election-trump-biden-jobs/index.html


New York (CNN Business) — The economy has gone from President Donald Trump's greatest political asset to perhaps his biggest weakness.

Unemployment is spiking at an unprecedented rate. Consumer spending is vanishing. And GDP is collapsing. History shows that dreadful economic trends like these spell doom for sitting presidents seeking reelection.

The coronavirus recession will cause Trump to suffer a "historic defeat" in November, a national election model released Wednesday by Oxford Economics predicted.

The model, which uses unemployment, disposable income and inflation to forecast election results, predicts that Trump will lose in a landslide, capturing just 35% of the popular vote. That's a sharp reversal from the model's pre-crisis prediction that Trump would win about 55% of the vote. And it would be the worst performance for an incumbent in a century

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Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
3. I believe it will indeed be a landslide, unemployment, and Trump's obvious incompetence.
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:28 PM
May 2020

& one more, his big mouth.

One doesn't have to be an expert, to see these three.

Ferryboat

(922 posts)
4. Need to lose
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:32 PM
May 2020

By such a wide margin, in both electoral college and the popular vote. Otherwise doubt will be cast and the whole country descends to civil war.

Boogaloo boys, rw fringe groups are all looking for an excuse.

CousinIT

(9,241 posts)
7. ONLY if people vote and their votes are counted. I'm EXTREMELY concerned about vote by mail
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:39 PM
May 2020

Because the USPS will be bankrupt by July and at that same time Trump's big donor goon takes over as Postmaster General.

Trump is already setting up the pretext that voting by mail is "voter fraud" and will likely order his goon at USPS to interfere with and/or destroy mailed ballots.

Think he won't? HE WILL.

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
9. Pehaps, but a landslide will overcome "dirty tricks" in my opinion. Why? It won't be close enough
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:46 PM
May 2020

to have the "tricks work" Anti Trump vote will be at least 60%. That is 60% for Biden, 40% for Trump across the board...not close enough for the "dirty tricks to be effective"..And we are not talking about "swing states"

People in rural areas are suffering too..The economy is heading toward a depression. (with everyone afraid, and tens of millions out of work). Today it was announced that another retail store chain has declared "bankruptcy"

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
10. If unemployment continues to increase, the defeat will be beyond "humiliating"!!!!!
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:47 PM
May 2020

Why do you think that Trump wants to reopen as soon as possible?..Trump doesn't care about reopening causing death.....he cares about unemployment causing his failure at being reelected

Let us all think about that last sentence for a while..eh!!!!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
11. Same model predicted he'd get 55% before?
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:50 PM
May 2020

That makes me take the whole model with a grain of salt. Both 55% and 35% seem like outlier estimates.

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
15. Excellent point...Yes, it is the future, This is May 20,..Election is first week in November..
Wed May 20, 2020, 03:14 PM
May 2020

This whole thing may be..mute, for lots of reasons that we are not thinking or can't think of.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
17. Actually, as much as I hate it.................
Wed May 20, 2020, 03:23 PM
May 2020

I can see that being a working model. As attuned to politics as most here at DU are, there's a YUGE number of people out there that think: (1) "They're all the same." (2) "Doesn't matter to me - that's politics." (3) "I'm doing OK - why change now?"

All of the crazy sh*t that IQ45 had done up to 2020 just didn't ring any bells with anybody thinking those 3 points - because IT DID NOT MATTER TO THEM!!!!!!! I can see the possible 55% support (OMG - just almost threw-up in my throat...)/

But now, the largest number of people unemployed since the Great Depression? Guess what - for THEM it matters because they are a part of that number! And if Grandma, or spouse, or child died - I'm thinking they might be listening to "We do have a plan" - "We have it under control" - "..the 15 cases in the US will be down to zero - and the CLASSIC "Kick 'em in the balls" -"I don't take responsibility at all."

I don't think ANYONE that has lost a family member or friend will EVER forget that one (let me repeat):
"I don't take responsibility at all."

Out of work? Owe rent? Lost a family member? Stock market hit you hard? Depression? Your parents suffering and you can't help?
So here I can see the 35%. And, truth be known, just based on how much I HATE HIM, I can't believe it would even be that high (but that's just wishful thinking.............).

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