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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,036 posts)
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 01:16 PM Jun 2020

If the Deep State is out to get Trump, why aren't more officials speaking up like Bolton?

Donald Trump and his allies have continually railed about how the "Deep State" of unelected national security bureaucrats has quietly worked to undermine the Trump presidency.

But the new allegations in a book by former national security adviser John Bolton turn that formulation on its head. If Bolton is to be believed — Trump calls him a liar — plenty of career diplomats, soldiers and spies kept quiet as they watched Trump abuse his office.

In Bolton's telling, members of the so-called Deep State, including senior intelligence and defense officials, knew about actions by Trump that were unethical if not illegal — and said nothing. That would mean the press, the public, and House impeachment investigators were kept in the dark.

The reason more insiders didn't speak out are complex, according to a former senior national security official who served for years in the Trump administration and faced the choice on a near daily basis. But broadly, the official said, unelected national security bureaucrats tend to give great deference to the president's policy choices, and the line between bad decisions and abuse of office is not a clear one.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/if-the-deep-state-is-out-to-get-trump-why-arent-more-officials-speaking-up-like-bolton/ar-BB163G5u?li=BBnb7Kz

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If the Deep State is out to get Trump, why aren't more officials speaking up like Bolton? (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 OP
They don't wanna be tweeted at donkeypoofed Jun 2020 #1
They're saving it for the book: "Four Years At the Mast". marble falls Jun 2020 #2
There is no "deep State" just deep bullshit. The term is KPN Jun 2020 #3
Foundational Bullshit makes terrible foundations. czarjak Jun 2020 #4
Like the various whistleblowers. Igel Jun 2020 #5

KPN

(15,646 posts)
3. There is no "deep State" just deep bullshit. The term is
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jun 2020

nothing more than label to stigmatize career professionals in the federal government; people who actually know up from down and successfully perform their duties within the bounds of federal government/civil service ethical standards.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
5. Like the various whistleblowers.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jun 2020

Or maybe the people that talked to the NYT about the Russian-Taliban funding report?

Maybe the early coronovirus response?

The TSA PPE "scandal"?

How about the decision to drop the charges over Flynn?

Recent leaks about Roger Stone?

That's just the last month.

Deep state, no deep state, lots of people who call Trump boss don't like working for Trump, but think they own the job and want to work to make sure their boss moves on.

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