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ItsjustMe

(11,230 posts)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:22 AM Nov 2020

Legal problems galore await Donald Trump if he loses reelection and his presidential immunity

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-legal-troubles-possible-indictment-doj-mueller-new-york-2020-11?s=09

President Donald Trump faces a potential wave of legal challenges should he lose the 2020 election and have to leave the White House and the immunity it has given him over the last four years.

Trouble likely awaits him from multiple places: federal- and state-level investigations, criminal and civil inquiries, and matters involving his businesses, political operations, and tenure as president.

But Trump could take perhaps the most dramatic step there is to avoid legal peril; he could try to issue a pardon to himself, or resign outright from the presidency during the lame-duck period and order his replacement Mike Pence to preemptively pardon him.

There's some precedent for such a move. President Gerald Ford sparked controversy in 1974 when he preemptively pardoned his predecessor Richard Nixon who had recently resigned from the White House in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal.

But such gambits wouldn't inoculate Trump and his closest allies from potential fines and even jail time from any state-level challenges where a presidential pardon has no effect.
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Legal problems galore await Donald Trump if he loses reelection and his presidential immunity (Original Post) ItsjustMe Nov 2020 OP
I predict he'll cut and run Bayard Nov 2020 #1
I think he will end up in Russia rather than UAE or Saudi Arabia King_Klonopin Nov 2020 #5
Self pardon wouldn't fly for the same reason his commuting Roger Stone's sentence probably won't YessirAtsaFact Nov 2020 #2
Is Trump smart enough to cut a deal and step down? YessirAtsaFact Nov 2020 #3
There's no way this criminal runs again in 2024. Earthshine2 Nov 2020 #4
The legal fees, alone could bankrupt him --- 'sept he always forgets to pay his lawyers. 3Hotdogs Nov 2020 #6
Not paying your lawyers is not ronatchig Nov 2020 #7

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
5. I think he will end up in Russia rather than UAE or Saudi Arabia
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:15 AM
Nov 2020

someplace where he cannot be extradited.

I just realized why Trump has a bank account in China. The U.S. DOJ can only
sieze his assets in the U.S.; He stored up money in China as an emergency
"Fugitive from Justice" fund.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
2. Self pardon wouldn't fly for the same reason his commuting Roger Stone's sentence probably won't
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:27 AM
Nov 2020

Corrupt intent.

I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding is that the president can't pardon someone from a crime that the president himself is also involved in.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
3. Is Trump smart enough to cut a deal and step down?
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:30 AM
Nov 2020

I'm not sure I would want him to, but it would make more sense (for a rational DJT) to step down rather than continuing to cause trouble for 2 months and getting arrested at 12:01 p.m. on January 20, 2021

Earthshine2

(4,002 posts)
4. There's no way this criminal runs again in 2024.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:49 AM
Nov 2020

Same for his grifter children. When the lawsuits hit, they will all be laying low.

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
6. The legal fees, alone could bankrupt him --- 'sept he always forgets to pay his lawyers.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:47 AM
Nov 2020
Then there's the loans that are coming due.


I shouldn't laugh at the misfortune of others, but......

ronatchig

(575 posts)
7. Not paying your lawyers is not
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:54 AM
Nov 2020

A good plan. Talk about an action coming back to bite you. I've always remembered the judges are lawyers too!

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