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Mon Jan 4, 2021, 10:21 AM Jan 2021

Trump's latest crime "shocks" the media: His niece, Mary Trump, is not surprised

Trump's latest crime "shocks" the media: His niece, Mary Trump, is not surprised
Mary Trump on her uncle's desperate attempt to escape being a "loser": It's a "uniquely terrifying situation"

JANUARY 4, 2021 11:00AM

(Salon) When it comes to Donald Trump, too many people in the mainstream media and elsewhere have tried to impose complexity onto simplicity. For many such observers there must always be some other explanation for Trump and his movement's anti-democratic behavior and overall evil. Therefore, we must ride the hamster wheel of shock and surprise at each new example of Trump's ignominious behavior.

Why does this happen? It comes from applying old frameworks for understanding politics and presidents onto a man and a movement that have shattered them. Moreover, to admit basic if unpleasant truths about Trump and his movement would be to force an act of critical self-reflection on a mainstream media ecosystem that has largely failed in its responsibilities to hold the powerful accountable during the Age of Trump.

We learned on Sunday that Donald Trump has apparently committed yet another "shocking" crime against democracy and the American people. According to audio recordings acquired by CNN and reported by the Washington Post, Trump spent an hour on the phone with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Saturday, urging Raffensperger "to 'find' votes to overturn the election results," and attacking him "for refusing to falsely say that (Trump) won the election in Georgia."

CNN reports:

"The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry. And there's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, um, that you've recalculated," Trump said in one part of the call. Raffensperger responded, "Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong."

In another part, Trump said, "So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state."

"You should want to have an accurate election. And you're a Republican," Trump said at one point. ...

The call represents the latest extraordinary effort by Trump to change the results of the race he lost following weeks of legal and political efforts by the President, his legal team and Republican allies to overturn the free and fair election.


America needs to undergo a real reckoning with itself about the Age of Trump and how this disaster came to be. What would a reckoning and healing look like to you?

We cannot have a reckoning if the government refuses to hold people accountable. The idea that there may not be a truth and reconciliation committee or a crimes commission is unspeakable. How is that possible? There is no one in the United States government for whom that is more necessary than for Donald. It would be good if there was accountability at the federal level. We may have to settle for accountability at the state level. ............(more)


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Trump's latest crime "shocks" the media: His niece, Mary Trump, is not surprised (Original Post) marmar Jan 2021 OP
Anyone who is surprised has not been paying attention. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #1
Please click on the link, gab13by13 Jan 2021 #2
K&R 2naSalit Jan 2021 #3
"Mock Donald at your peril." pfitz59 Jan 2021 #4
What's really disturbing about this is that nothing will be done. NoRoadUntravelled Jan 2021 #5


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4. "Mock Donald at your peril."
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:03 AM
Jan 2021

Trump as already launched a suit against Raffensberger for releasing the recording. He'll lose, but meanwhile...


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5. What's really disturbing about this is that nothing will be done.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:45 AM
Jan 2021

Hillary tried to warn us all and now the psychotic's niece is warning us. We've stood aghast and appalled nearly every day for the last 4 years. Nothing has been done to stop him as he gained more power, more sycophantic worshippers, members of the GOP tripping over themselves to drool at his feet. Armed militia ready to trade Democracy for Fascism by force if necessary, based on their statements about civil war.

Little has been done to stop him and any efforts in that regard have proved to impotent. It's only become worse. Is there anyone charged with stopping a crazed POTUS from destroying our Democracy with the help of foreign adversaries? If so, who might that be? This has been a topic of discussion since his inauguration.

The election will be certified on January 6 but there is nothing in that certification that assures Trump will stop his destruction between then and Jan 20.
While hundreds of loyal employees of various federal agencies have done their best to hold this tattered country together by the Rule of Law, one cannot expect them to physically stop this onslaught.
There is only so much anyone can do when lies and propaganda from the highest office in the land is actually legal.
There is only so much one can expect when the law is broken and policies trampled while entertainment media personalities spewing lies are allowed to call themselves journalists.

Nothing will be done to stop Trump because it doesn't appear the job belongs to anyone at all. We can console ourselves with the idea that we can vote even as this POTUS works to overturn the election but that is all we have.
Something tells me that next time we won't get off so easy. Beware, America. Beware.

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