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lees1975

(3,850 posts)
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 08:36 PM Aug 2021

Where Republicans don't stack up to Evangelical Christian Values

in the words and standards set by well-known Evangelical preachers and leaders, there are really just a couple of "Evangelical" principles on which Republicans claim to hang their hat, abortion rights and now, LGBTQ issues. But on the basic principles, including the much maligned term "social justice" and on casting a ballot based on the character of the candidate, they fail and the standards by which they fail have been articulated by well-known evangelical leaders.

The section on character is particularly pointed.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2021/08/where-republicans-lose-evangelical.html

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cutroot

(875 posts)
1. Evangelicals have little to do with Jesus Christ
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 09:10 PM
Aug 2021

They simply pay lip service. Mammon is their god.
Mahatma Gandhi — 'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
2. the evangelicals are neck deep in the extremist right, they are the religious wing...
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 09:39 PM
Aug 2021

of the christofascist movement that has spent the decades since Reagan trying to install a christian theocracy in this country.

Even those evangelicals who aren't rank hypocrites, condone this political activism or are too quiet or they are screaming from the rooftops in a hurricane.

By and large they don't care about character. If they did they would never have voted for the Pig.

This blog author is a minority in a group of fanatics who don't see a need for separation of church and state. There is no intersection between their religion and their politics, they are the same.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
3. Just throwing this in here.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 10:20 PM
Aug 2021

I've been following a blog named "Roll to Disbelieve" at the Nonreligious channel at Patheos. The writer of this blog has a background within the Evangelical Community.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/rolltodisbelieve/2021/08/07/watch-for-self-interest-in-evangelicals-criticisms-of-themselves/

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
4. That depends on whether you are talking about political Christians or Christians of faith.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 11:43 PM
Aug 2021

That depends on whether you are talking about political Christians or Christians of faith.

lees1975

(3,850 posts)
5. The term "Evangelical Christian" now references the political side
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 12:31 AM
Aug 2021

I should drop the use of the term "Evangeiical" and just use "Christian." The doctrine and theology claimed by the political evangelicals is the same, they just ignore it when it is convenient and mis-interpret when there's a conflict. In the blog piece, the issue of candidate character is line up doctrinally by Dr Rogers, and it is solidly Biblical and stands in contrast to those who excused their vote for Trump by claiming they weren't votng for a pastor-in-chief, they were voting for a commander-in-chief. Rogers destroys that claim, because what he wrote came before he ever realized Trump would run for office. So as a political evangelical, you find yourself arguing with biblical doctrine outlined by one of the most prominent and well known evangelical pastors of our day. Nowhere to go at that point.

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
6. We used to use the term "fundamentalist."
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:03 AM
Aug 2021

I think that is still more accurate.

Evangelical refers to the four gospels. Any Christian church that bases its beliefs on the four gospels is evangelical. It has nothing to do with politics. I will stick with the term's original meaning.

Pundits and journalists have taken to using the term "evangelical" to describe fundamentalists because it sounds less pejorative. Fundamentalists became political when they realized that politics gave them more power and money.

I am tired of the reframing and muddying of terms of common discourse.

czarjak

(11,269 posts)
7. In 1961 I was eight years old attending family reunions in downtown Tulsa to recall 1921 for some.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 07:42 PM
Aug 2021

You can bet your butt everyone was in the pews of the Assembly of God churches in the Tulsa burbs the next day. Hateful ignorance wrapped in religion is still hateful ignorance. I lived it.

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