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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,036 posts)
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 02:35 PM Dec 2021

'Tis the season, once again: Evangelicals must save Christmas from an imaginary enemy

Here comes my favorite season of the evangelical political calendar. It's time for the righteous war to save Christmas from the evil progressives with their "Happy Holidays" and their zero-tolerance policy for nativity scenes. Those heartless liberals will attempt once again to destroy the true meaning of Christmas, burn down all the Christmas trees (not just the one outside the Fox News building), spell it as "Xmas" and generally rip all mention of God from this holiest of holidays.

No of course I don't believe any of that, despite my personal background as an evangelical pastor. In truth, this yet another political and cultural issue that has been created entirely out of whole cloth by the great distaction agents of the evangelical Republican machine. I believe this issue perfectly illustrates the blueprint behind the evangelical approach to politics. They start with a fake issue that requires no grounding in scripture, zero biblical evidence and zero change for anyone within their own group. It is easily identifiable and pushes emotional buttons, which makes it an easy money-raising grift for politicians and pastors, and reliably provides a seasonal ratings boost for Fox News. It's another issue where evangelicals get to pretend they are fighting for God's cause while in fact ignoring every issue that affects God's people. Lastly, they get to declare victory every year because, no matter what Donald Trump and any number of leading evangelicals may claim, there never was a war on Christmas conducted by liberals, atheists, Muslims, Jews, godless Communists and other infidels.

The idea that somehow Christ's birthday — which definitely wasn't on Dec. 25, by the way — requires any form of annual celebration has no connection to Christ, his teachings or the Bible. I cannot even figure out what aspect of the "traditional" Christmas celebration has anything to do with Jesus. The madhouse shopping (both online and in person), the tree, the lights, the tinsel, the consumerist orgy of Black Friday and Cyber Monday and whatever other special days the marketing people can come up with this holiday season is a celebration of everything that money can purchase, and has literally nothing to do with the ministry of Jesus. Last I heard, according to Christian theology you cannot serve both God and money, and far too many are trying to do just that during the Christmas season — and for that matter all year round. Christ was removed from the Christmas season a long time ago, no matter what you call the holiday.

No issue better exemplifies the misdeeds of the evangelical political machine than the fight to "save" Christmas from imaginary enemies who are supposedly trying to crush the joy out of the holiday with too much wokeness (or whatever). The enemy is said to be everywhere, yet somehow the fight is easily winnable. You will hear a handful of folks who announce, "I proudly say Merry Christmas," as if some committee of socialists or feminists were trying to prevent them from saying it. It is difficult for me to imagine Jesus Christ walking around an American town saying, "Hey, where's my nativity scene?" It's easier for me to imagine Jesus wondering why this country so many people claim is a "Christian nation" can ignore the plight of the poor, the sick and those newly arrived among us.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/tis-the-season-once-again-evangelicals-must-save-christmas-from-an-imaginary-enemy/ar-AARJRqg

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'Tis the season, once again: Evangelicals must save Christmas from an imaginary enemy (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2021 OP
Christmas was a pagan holiday for ancient people all around the world vlyons Dec 2021 #1
'Happy Holidays' Is Hardly New Anyway, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2021 #2
That is correct all around. Merry Christmas and happy new year. Walleye Dec 2021 #4
X was timms139 Dec 2021 #5
Exactly right SCantiGOP Dec 2021 #6
Donald Trump Wished Everyone 'Happy Holidays' When Obama Was Saying 'Merry Christmas' keithbvadu2 Dec 2021 #3
We've all seen what republicans think.... SergeStorms Dec 2021 #7
Something tells me that FAUX news paid someone to set their X-mas tree on fire. Crowman2009 Dec 2021 #8
I can picture.... SergeStorms Dec 2021 #9
And we need to get control of this thing jmowreader Dec 2021 #10
Sure. The enemy will use anti-reindeerr missles to stop Santa from delivering toys! Jacson6 Dec 2021 #11

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
1. Christmas was a pagan holiday for ancient people all around the world
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 03:14 PM
Dec 2021

It celebrates the return of the sun bringing longer daylight hours and the promise of Spring to come. Ancient people ween't stupid. they knew when the shortest day/longest night was. The Romans celebrated Saturnalia with lots of flowing wine, flowing semen, and pranks to overturn order. Then along came the Roman Christians, who confiscated Saturnalia and made it celebrate the birth of Jesus.

Christmas trees, or course, were a German/Nordic tradition. Prince Albert brought the tradition to England, and the Victorians followed the fashion.

I'm a Buddhist and happy to celebrate with anyone in their tradition. The Dec Buddhist holiday is Dec 8, Bodhi Day, celebrating the day of Buddha's enlightenment. My belief is Hey let's party and have good time and enjoy each other's company.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
2. 'Happy Holidays' Is Hardly New Anyway, Sir
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 03:32 PM
Dec 2021

It was current when I was a kid because after all, there were two, New Years as well as Christmas.

Commercialization of Christmas, what the present god-botherers are actually defending, was denounced widely every year, albeit without much effect. The nearest to defense of 'Christmas' was some deriding of the 'Xmas' usage, though the latter was defended by saying 'X' had been used as a cipher for 'Christ' back in Roman days.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
6. Exactly right
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 10:23 PM
Dec 2021

It is not, as the claim, an attempt to remove Christ from Christmas. It is no more disrespectful than referring to President George Bush as “W.”

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
3. Donald Trump Wished Everyone 'Happy Holidays' When Obama Was Saying 'Merry Christmas'
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 03:51 PM
Dec 2021

Donald Trump Wished Everyone 'Happy Holidays' When Obama Was Saying 'Merry Christmas'

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-barack-obama-christmas-758794

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
7. We've all seen what republicans think....
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 11:24 PM
Dec 2021

christmas is all about. It's about gathering the family together and celebrating their love of automatic and semiautomatic weapons, but evanHELLicals don't seem to have a problem with that.

Just don't say, "Happy Holidays", to anyone. That's what really pisses Jebus off.

Crowman2009

(2,497 posts)
8. Something tells me that FAUX news paid someone to set their X-mas tree on fire.
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 09:02 AM
Dec 2021

In order to get that so-called "War on X-mas" started again.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
9. I can picture....
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 03:38 PM
Dec 2021

little "bow tie boy" outside, kneeling beneath the tree with his box of "freedom matches", just so he can have something to talk about on his nightly hour of propaganda.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
10. And we need to get control of this thing
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 06:07 PM
Dec 2021

Otherwise, the Fox News Christmas Tree will gain the same exalted place in American lore as Sweden’s Gavle Goat - people will start taking bets on how long it’ll be until someone sets it on fire.

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