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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,996 posts)
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 03:15 PM Jun 2022

The Supreme Court Will Pay for Overturning Roe

A few short weeks ago, speaking at a Federalist Society event, Justice Clarence Thomas warned ominously that “you cannot have a free society” without stable institutions. He contended that “we should be careful destroying our institutions because they don’t give us what we want when we want.” In hindsight his prediction that public regard for institutions— his worry that he didn’t know how much longer we would have and keep those institutions—reads more like a ransom note that a lament.

What Justice Thomas was telling us was that institutional respect is owed, blindly and without conditions. It chimed in the same key as then-Attorney General Bill Barr’s promise that unless Americans stopped disrespecting the police, the police might stop showing up to protect them. That isn’t how respect, or public trust, works. Those things are earned, over time. They can also be squandered, we are now learning, in the span of a few careless months.

Today, for the first time in constitutional history, the United States Supreme Court, by a 6-3 margin, took a fundamental constitutionally protected right away from half the population; a right around which generations of women and families have ordered their lives. Make no mistake, the same court that just 24 hours earlier had determined that the decision to carry a gun on the streets is such an essential aspect of personal liberty that states may not be permitted to regulate it, has now declared that decisions about abortion, miscarriage, contraception, economic survival, child-rearing, and intimate family choices are worthy of zero solicitude. None. In their view of liberty, women were worthy of zero solicitude at the founding, and remain unworthy of it today. As Mark Joseph Stern notes women will suffer, some will be refused treatment for miscarriages, and some will be turned away from emergency rooms. Some will be hunted down, spied on, and prosecuted for seeking health care, medication, and autonomy. The majority glibly tells us that because the harms to these people are unknowable, they are not urgent—or at the very least, less urgent than the harms faced by people who would like to see more guns in public spaces.

But ordinary Americans do not think these harms are trivial. On Thursday, Gallop polling showed the public approval for the Supreme Court to be at an historic low—25 percent. It’s a precipitous drop from the prior historic low the court received in September, which sat at about 38 percent. The six Justices in the majority of Dobbs will comfort themselves that this doesn’t matter. They will tell themselves that they corrected an historic injustice and that they saved unborn babies. They will say that they have lifetime tenure in order to protect against the whims of the majorities. They will blame protesters and they will continue to blame the press. Even the much vaunted centrism and pragmatism of Chief Justice John Roberts seems to have left the building. The fact of his seemingly moderate concurrence notwithstanding, in joining with a majority that could not wait to do in three years what they could do in one, it is clear that he has lost his court, and also that he is surely less worried about the public regard for the institution than we had believed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-supreme-court-will-pay-for-overturning-roe/ar-AAYQnAX

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The Supreme Court Will Pay for Overturning Roe (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 OP
Abort the Court! Meadowoak Jun 2022 #1
Any law will mean less and less to anyone unless they are caught bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #2
I thought it was a 5-4 vote. nt DURHAM D Jun 2022 #3
I think you're correct Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 #4
Confidence in the SCOTUS has been declining for a while LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #5
The Supremes don't give a shit. Scruffy1 Jun 2022 #6
Please explain to me how exactly they will "pay"? Shipwack Jun 2022 #7
This Stuckinthebush Jun 2022 #8
Not unless a whole bunch of us get pissed off and take action. (nt) Paladin Jun 2022 #9

bucolic_frolic

(43,167 posts)
2. Any law will mean less and less to anyone unless they are caught
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 03:23 PM
Jun 2022

And most think they can get away with it or they wouldn't do it.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
6. The Supremes don't give a shit.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:21 PM
Jun 2022

They will continue to collect their salaries for as long as they like and having done what they were paid to will happily flip us the bird. The whole institution needs to go. They already fueled one civil war with Dred Scott. If they were actually originalist they would have stuck to maritime law and suits between the states. Funny how the media never jumps on this simple fact. Some legal experts have opined it would be pretty easy to take away their jurisdiction by adding another court level.

Shipwack

(2,162 posts)
7. Please explain to me how exactly they will "pay"?
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:43 AM
Jun 2022

Voted out of office?

Not invited to the State of the Union speech?

Have sternly worded chalk messages in front of their house?

🤔

I honestly wish there was something more than being held up as a bad example for future generations that could be done to them, but I don’t see anything.

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
8. This
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 10:11 AM
Jun 2022

Aren't we simply shaking our fists at clouds now? They don't care - they have the power and the protection of a life long position. They know that they won't be impeached because there will never be 60 votes to do that. The terrible supremes live in an echo chamber made up of fox news watching cheerleaders. They hear none of this, and if they do, they are convinced that what they did is right.

So, what does the majority do? Play hardball. Do things that republicans would do that may be questionable from a constitutional perspective. Push a constitutional crisis?

I think it is our last hope.

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