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BootinUp

(47,162 posts)
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 11:55 AM Aug 2022

Pretty good thread on Who is Aleksandr Dugin

Visegrád 24

3h • 20 tweets • 4 min read

The influence Dugin is alleged to have over Putin personally is often exaggerated in the West, but his book from 1997, “The Foundations of Geopolitics”, has had much influence within the Russian military & foreign policy elites.

Let’s look at some of the maps in it.




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The ideas presented by Dugin in “Geopolitics” made there way into the army after the Academy of the General Staff of the Russian military started using it as a textbook in the late 90s & early 00s.

The people educated there then are now in key positions in the Russian Army in UA

Dugin has access to key people in the military since his father, Geliy, was a colonel-general in the Soviet military intelligence.

Colonel General Leonid Ivashov, head of the International Department of the Russian Ministry of Defence, helped to draft Dugin’s book “Geopolitics”.
In Foundations of Geopolitics, Dugin calls for the US and Atlanticism to lose their influence in Eurasia, and for Russia to rebuild its influence through annexations and alliances.

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Military operations play relatively little role.

The textbook advocates a sophisticated program of subversion, destabilization, and disinformation spearheaded by the Russian special services.

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The operations should be assisted by a tough, hard-headed utilization of Russia's gas, oil, and natural resources to bully and pressure other countries.

The book states that "the maximum task [of the future] is the 'Finlandization' of all of Europe".

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More than anything, Dugin wants the US out of Europe by dividing up the continent together with a Franco-German alliance.

France should be encouraged to form a bloc with Germany, as they both have a "firm anti-Atlanticist tradition" according to Dugin.

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Dugin says Germany should be offered the de facto political dominance over most Protestant and Catholic states located within Central and Eastern Europe, while Russia should be given control of the Orthodox populations in the Balkans.

Kaliningrad could be given back to Germany.

Dugin writes that:

- Finland should be absorbed into Russia.

- Estonia should be given to Germany's sphere of influence.

- Latvia & Lithuania should be integrated into Russia.

- Belarus & Moldova are to become part of Russia.
Dugin also claims that:

Romania, North Macedonia, Serbia, "Serbian Bosnia" and Greece – "Orthodox collectivist East" – will unite with "Moscow the Third Rome" and reject the "rational-individualistic West".
Dugin writes that “Ukraine has no geopolitical meaning, no cultural importance or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia”.
Dugin says that Russia must annex Ukraine because “without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics".

Later on in time, Dugin declared respect for China, but in “Geopolitics” in 1997, he argued that Beijing represents a danger to Russia and China must be dismantled.

He wants Russia to annex Tibet–Xinjiang–Inner Mongolia–Manchuria.

The Chinese never forgave Dugin.

After suggesting that Russia should annex northern and eastern China, Dugin writes that Moscow should offer China help "in a southern direction – Indochina (except Vietnam), the Philippines, Indonesia, Australia" as geopolitical compensation.
In America, Dugin suggests that Russia should use its special services within the borders of the US to fuel instability and separatism, thus “introducing geopolitical disorder into internal American activity”.
Dugin argued that Russia should foment “ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S.”

He also talks about supporting isolationist tendencies
Finally, Dugin drew a map which shows Russia “as an Eurasian Empire”.

These are the minimum borders he wants.

Later on, he has expanded his ambitions talking about Russia reaching the Indian Ocean too.

Many of his ideas have been taking root in the Russian Army for 25 years.

To summarize, Dugin has little impact on Putin’s own plans, but his book has influenced large parts of the Russian Army.

After criticizing Putin for not taking all of Ukraine in 2014, Dugin lost his job at the Moscow State University.

Putin views Dugin & Girkin as a nuisance.
It is therefore likely that it was Putin, or somebody trying to please Putin, who was trying to kill Dugin yesterday.

It is much less likely that the Ukrainian secret services had anything to do with it.
It is also possible that Dugin’s murder was to be used to rally public support for a massive attack on Ukraine in connection with Ukraine’s Restoration of Independence Day (August 24).

Russian air-defense systems have been amassing in Belarus for well over a week now.


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jmbar2

(4,890 posts)
1. This explains so much - thanks for posting
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 12:16 PM
Aug 2022

China's takeover of Tibet and war on the Uighurs makes better sense now if they felt those parts of China would be Russian targets. Geo strategically, those two areas play a role similar to Ukraine does to Russia - buffers against Russian incursion.

Unfortunately, the people of those lands have been brutally oppressed and subjugated.

flying_wahini

(6,606 posts)
3. Do the Russians still believe that they could take Europe AND China? Really?
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 12:43 PM
Aug 2022

Maybe in their dreams. It explains a lot about a Putin, anyway.

Thanks for posting! Very interesting!

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
4. His book is used as a textbook by the Russian military
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 12:51 PM
Aug 2022
Klokotov stated that in the future the book would "serve as a mighty ideological foundation for preparing a new military command".[9] Dugin has asserted that the book has been adopted as a textbook in many Russian educational institutions.[1] Former speaker of the Russian State Duma, Gennadiy Seleznyov, for whom Dugin was adviser on geopolitics,[10] "urged that Dugin's geopolitical doctrine be made a compulsory part of the school curriculum".[9]

The book may have been influential in Vladimir Putin's foreign policy, which eventually led to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.[11][12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

underpants

(182,826 posts)
5. "China must be dismantled." Yeah sounds like a plan
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 12:56 PM
Aug 2022

Let us know how that works out. Take your time, you all (Russia) seem to be having a problems with the farmers and suburbanite types in Ukraine.

malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
6. Basically old wine in new bottles.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 12:59 PM
Aug 2022
Protocols of the Elders of Zion wrapped in mysticism and Russian chauvinism.

-- Mal

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
7. "He's on a religious mission to universalize the Russian Orthodox faith through power and violence"
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 01:02 PM
Aug 2022
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/27/1089047787/russian-intellectual-aleksandr-dugin-is-also-commonly-known-as-putins-brain
Russian intellectual Aleksandr Dugin is also commonly known as 'Putin's brain'
March 27, 2022 8:58 AM ET

VON DREHLE: Dugin is a good old-fashioned mystical fascist of the sort that kind of flourished after World War I, when many people in Europe felt lost, felt like the Old World had failed, and were searching around for explanations. And a certain set of them decided the problem was all of modern thinking, the idea of freedom, the idea of individual rights. And in Dugin's case, he felt that the Russian Orthodox Church was destined to rule as an empire over all of Europe and Asia. And eventually, in a big book in 1997, he laid out the road map for accomplishing that. He's continued to be intimately involved in the Russian military, Russian intelligence services and Putin's inner circle. ...

He felt that this was the great land-based empire and that it was in competition with a great sea-based empire that was led by the United States and Great Britain. So step one was to weaken the U.S., weaken Great Britain and disconnect us from our ties to Europe. And if you look at the way Putin has manipulated the internet over the past 20 years, the rise of social media to drive division and heat up the culture wars in the United States, to influence the Brexit movement in Great Britain. All of these things are steps to weaken the West because it's Russia's destiny to draw Europe toward Russia. ...

Ukraine is not a separate country, that it's another Russian Orthodox-dominated country. But from a strategic standpoint, it is the nation on the north shore of the Black Sea. And Dugin says that Eurasia, as he calls the future Russian empire - Eurasia has to have complete control of the Black Sea. ...

Dugin does not believe that Eurasia, you know, the great Russian empire, will be complete until China has been basically destroyed, that if only Hitler had never invaded Russia, then together, Russia and Germany and Japan could have formed a fascist alliance that would have dominated the world with Russia as the strongest partner from - as he puts it, from Dublin to Vladivostok.

underpants

(182,826 posts)
8. Big plans. The idea of Empire Building in this day seems quaint.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 01:08 PM
Aug 2022

Wasn’t sure on that last word. Empire building means a helluva a lot of people are dying.


Someone very knowledgeable about Russia once told me that Moscovites are completely certain that they will conquer the world. I’ve held onto that and it’s shown to be true. This is of that.

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