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appalachiablue

(41,169 posts)
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 11:59 AM Sep 2022

Is Progress Obsolete? U.S. Is Now An 'Un- Developing Country': UN Ranking of Nations, No. 41

- 'Is Progress Obsolete? The United States Is Now an 'Un-Developing' Country,' by Richard Eskow, Sept. 17, 2020. - Ed.

- The rankings include the absence of poverty and hunger, good health & education, gender equality, clean air and water, & reduced inequality.

The United Nations' latest annual ranking of nations by "sustainable development goals" will come as a shock for many Americans.
Not only aren't we "Number 1," we're not even close. The top 4 countries are Scandinavian democracies. The U.S.ranks 41st, just below Cuba (that's right, below our Communist neighbor). Countries that outrank us include Estonia, Croatia, the Slovak Republic, Romania, and Serbia.

The goal of the report is to measure countries' progress, or development, toward a civilized and sustainable future.

Every ranking contains some element of subjectivity. But the 17 "sustainable development goals" (SDGs) developed by economist Jeffrey Sachs and his team are well chosen. They include the absence of poverty and hunger, good health and education, gender equality, clean air and water, and reduced inequality. The goal of the report is to measure countries' progress, or development, toward a civilized and sustainable future. As historian Kathleen Frydl points out, "Under this methodology- the U.S. ranks between Cuba and Bulgaria. Both are widely regarded as developing countries." Frydl's essay was widely circulated under the headline, "US is becoming a 'developing country' on global rankings that measure democracy, inequality."

To Frydl's point, the US picture does look like that of a developing country. But how, exactly, does a country that was once "developed" become "developing"? The phrase "developing country" implies that there are countries that have achieved development, and countries that are on their way. It leaves no room for the possibility that a nation, once it developed, can "un-develop" itself. It's like saying that a "growing child" can become "un-grown." And yet, that's exactly what is happening to the U.S. The language of "developed" and "developing" countries carries with it the idea that Western European & North American countries reached an endpoint in the 20th century, one that other nations naturally aspire to and are on the road to achieving.

It is the language of post-colonialism (which suggests the U.S. is now colonizing itself). The words are heavily freighted with assumptions about globalism, capitalism, & liberal democracy.

Among them is the idea that these forces bring with them a stability, the kind of benign stasis that Francis Fukuyama once called "the end of history." He has since renounced that idea, & understandably so. The declining status of the U. S. undermines the historical assumptions about progress that have guided political & financial elites for many decades. Countries like the U.S. & UK look less & less like the end-state of history and more & more like declining world powers.. Progress isn't like rain. It does not, as the Bible says of rainfall, "fall on the just & unjust alike." Progress, real progress, is made by people working together for the common good. If they don't work together it slows down, or stops, or reverses itself....https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/17/progress-obsolete-united-states-now-un-developing-country
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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/sep/20/number-global-ultra-high-net-worth-individuals-record-high

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Is Progress Obsolete? U.S. Is Now An 'Un- Developing Country': UN Ranking of Nations, No. 41 (Original Post) appalachiablue Sep 2022 OP
Until people stop coming to the United States to live, we will jimfields33 Sep 2022 #1
No, but they do come to countries that suck less than theirs. Shipwack Sep 2022 #3
That's just an excuse. jimfields33 Sep 2022 #4
So... You're suggesting that they swim to Scandinavia, then? 🤔 nt Shipwack Sep 2022 #5
Haitians cross the southern US border. Igel Sep 2022 #9
Here is an analysis BlueMTexpat Sep 2022 #12
Thanks a bunch, I had no luck when I searched for the report. appalachiablue Sep 2022 #15
You are most welcome! BlueMTexpat Sep 2022 #18
Jingoistic nonsense. Elessar Zappa Sep 2022 #17
These Metrics Are A Sign Of Republican Success Vogon_Glory Sep 2022 #2
Good summary, the hard right has been working towards appalachiablue Sep 2022 #7
We've had three democratic presidency's since reagan jimfields33 Sep 2022 #13
Reagan and Thatcher policies implemented are ultimately retrogressive. scarletlib Sep 2022 #14
Well, it has always been true that part of the US are underdeveloped. Now some of the more developed Martin68 Sep 2022 #6
This is like muscle development. Dysfunctional Sep 2022 #8
Crippled progress still moves forward. czarjak Sep 2022 #10
Thanks for posting! BlueMTexpat Sep 2022 #11
Good article on this from The Guardian: appalachiablue Sep 2022 #16

jimfields33

(15,933 posts)
1. Until people stop coming to the United States to live, we will
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 12:35 PM
Sep 2022

always be an outstanding country. People don’t come to countries that suck. Just doesn’t make sense.

Shipwack

(2,170 posts)
3. No, but they do come to countries that suck less than theirs.
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 01:18 PM
Sep 2022

Plus, while Scandinavia might be better to live in, the U.S. is easier to get to.

jimfields33

(15,933 posts)
4. That's just an excuse.
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 01:37 PM
Sep 2022

If People really wanted to live in Scandinavian countries they would do it. Plus, people if wanted to live in Canada they’d do it. People go where they see opportunity and a great country. There’s no other explanation for it at all.

Igel

(35,350 posts)
9. Haitians cross the southern US border.
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 09:34 PM
Sep 2022

They swim to Mexico, then?

The Ukrainians and Nigerians that showed up, grant them US citizenship and put them on the aquatic marathon team.

My kid's best friend's father was undocumented. We had a talk. Mexico was in every way superior. "Then why are you here? You cross the border each summer to visit family, if it's so much better there, why are you here?"

He didn't talk to me for a month. He was an idjit.

He made more money here. He was safer here. His offspring had greater opportunity--his kid showed insight at an early age, maybe GT but he hadn't been tested yet. Hard to see how this was a shithole country that he fled to from a superior country. A nationalist idjit.

Elessar Zappa

(14,033 posts)
17. Jingoistic nonsense.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 06:32 PM
Sep 2022

By almost every metric the US is near the bottom among developed countries. Whether you like it or not, that’s the truth.

Vogon_Glory

(9,127 posts)
2. These Metrics Are A Sign Of Republican Success
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 01:08 PM
Sep 2022

Last edited Wed Sep 21, 2022, 09:15 AM - Edit history (1)

The Republicans are steadily dismantling the welfare state and the widespread prosperity it bought and are turning the US into a third world country.

Unfortunately for the rest of us, the bamboozled red-state rubes who vote for them have only one definition for third world country: a country mostly populated by brown-skinned people and ruled by a white minority (the prosperous ones) or ruled by other brown people (the impoverished commie socialists). This BS has been spread for decades by NewsCorp and other propaganda organs and the credulous chumps who watch, read or listen to such purveyors are too clueless to look around their county, their state or their country for a reality check.

appalachiablue

(41,169 posts)
7. Good summary, the hard right has been working towards
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 06:59 PM
Sep 2022

a pro business, small government U.S. for decades - since FDR's reforms, the Cold War- Red Scare 1950s, and Reagan.

Murdock- owned media/Fox has helped destroy labor & Democratic governance on 3 continents - Austraila, the UK & US. Missed Canada somehow.

jimfields33

(15,933 posts)
13. We've had three democratic presidency's since reagan
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 06:17 AM
Sep 2022

The way it sounds makes it seem that world stopped at Reagan.

scarletlib

(3,418 posts)
14. Reagan and Thatcher policies implemented are ultimately retrogressive.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 08:14 AM
Sep 2022

Cutting government programs that help people, Union busting, lower wages(refusing to increase minimum wage), unneeded tax cuts for the wealthy, privatizing government functions, etc. all lead to more poverty for ordinary people. Clinton did the best he could and the country prospered. However, the Republican takeover of Congress that began in earnest under Gingrich has pretty much stymied and slowed any meaningful progress since then.

No President can do the job alone. Obama had to two terms. He was able to get a minimum wage increase and partial health care reforms. Otherwise he was blocked from getting much more done.

Biden has had more success. He has both the Senate & the House by a slim majority. That could all change in November depending on the midterm elections.

Martin68

(22,861 posts)
6. Well, it has always been true that part of the US are underdeveloped. Now some of the more developed
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 06:21 PM
Sep 2022

states such as Texas are moving backwards to join Mississippi, Missouri, and various other backwaters.

 

Dysfunctional

(452 posts)
8. This is like muscle development.
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 07:02 PM
Sep 2022

A noobi will gain muscle at a faster rate than a person who has already bulked up.

BlueMTexpat

(15,372 posts)
11. Thanks for posting!
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 04:20 AM
Sep 2022

Here is a link to the 2022 UN Report on Sustainable Development Goals that is the subject of this article.

https://dashboards.sdgindex.org/?fbclid=IwAR06VVbANExFcQxV33mJ3voFz8QYByrOxb2OXExSOwi-7KSaYSwg3K77v0I

Rather than simply reacting to the content of the article, I suggest that those who disagree actually spend some time reading the report.





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