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Uncle Joe

(58,456 posts)
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 12:53 PM Sep 2022

Yes, Climate Change Is Making Storms Like Hurricane Ian Worse



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In taunting headlines that followed, conservative media outlets framed the comments as a clapback against what they continue to portray as climate alarmism on the part of mainstream news outlets. Fox News wrote that Rhome had “shut down” Lemon on climate change. The U.K.’s Daily Mail wrote that he had been “schooled AGAIN [sic].” When contacted for comment, the National Hurricane Center flatly refuted any implication that Rhome meant to downplay how climate change is making hurricanes like Ian more dangerous, saying only that his immediate focus had been on talking about the storm’s approaching impacts—where rain, wind, and flooding will hit, and how bad it will be.

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For climate deniers, the answer is exactly never. Rhome, of course, likely wouldn’t hold that position, but his comments on CNN did motion towards something of an old view, that weather is weather and climate is climate. Up until recently, local meteorologists either weren’t much interested in talking about climate change, or assumed the public was more concerned about finding out if it was shorts or sweater weather than hearing about how the trends were changing over time. Climate scientists, meanwhile, talked about global heating almost exclusively in terms of long-term trends, but steered clear of talking about how warming temperatures were affecting individual events.

But these days, more and more weather forecasters are making discussion of climate change part of their daily newscasts. For instance, The Weather Company, which operates The Weather Channel, signed an agreement in May with Climate Central to provide climate analysis to the hundreds of local news organizations that use their forecasting tools as part of their daily broadcasts. Part of that has to do with the climate effects we’re experiencing: as the atmosphere continues to warm, meteorologists are more likely to want to explain why formerly anomalous events keep happening more and more often. And the state of climate science is also changing.

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Part of the reason for doing those rapid analyses is the same one that compelled Lemon to bring up climate change as Ian, expected to be one of the costliest storms in U.S. history, approached the Florida coast. People often think of climate change as a distant problem, which is part of the reason for a continuing lack of political will to make the necessary emissions cuts to avert catastrophic effects in the decades to come. But extreme weather events offer moments to show that climate change is happening here and now, and to point out what our future will look like, at a moment when people are actually paying attention.

https://time.com/6218075/hurricane-ian-climate-change-impact/


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Yes, Climate Change Is Making Storms Like Hurricane Ian Worse (Original Post) Uncle Joe Sep 2022 OP
Then why are China and India building brand new at140 Sep 2022 #1
Why did some people bungee jump with a cord that was too long? Uncle Joe Sep 2022 #2
Because the stock markets only care about growth right now IbogaProject Sep 2022 #3
But it gives China and India unfair advantage at140 Sep 2022 #4
Insofar as those nations still support the burning of coal, Uncle Joe Sep 2022 #5

at140

(6,110 posts)
1. Then why are China and India building brand new
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 12:56 PM
Sep 2022

coal fired power plants by the hundreds right now? Are those countries oblivious to climate change which will affect them as well?

Uncle Joe

(58,456 posts)
2. Why did some people bungee jump with a cord that was too long?
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 12:59 PM
Sep 2022


Most people have done it without killing themselves but it has happened.

IbogaProject

(2,845 posts)
3. Because the stock markets only care about growth right now
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 01:11 PM
Sep 2022

The markets and the companies who raise capital or earn bonuses from those markets are unwilling to look beyond a very short time frame. Our financial system that creates money at interest with out creating the interest is the root of much evil, death and destruction. It encourages and rewards short term gimmicks.

at140

(6,110 posts)
4. But it gives China and India unfair advantage
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 04:39 PM
Sep 2022

because coal power plants are cheaper to build and gives their businesses cheaper source of energy.
We need a united effort to address climate change, and it is unfair if only some countries are making a serious effort.

Uncle Joe

(58,456 posts)
5. Insofar as those nations still support the burning of coal,
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 05:02 PM
Sep 2022

the only advantage they get will be in inheriting a burning house.

We do need a united effort but life has never been fair even when we dominated the world in the release of carbon, now we're number two to China.

If life were fair, Africa wouldn't be catching the brunt of climate change devastation.

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