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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,010 posts)
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 02:09 PM Dec 2022

The biggest mistake Democrats made when they asked for Trump's taxes

Friday’s release of former President Donald Trump’s tax returns from his four years in the White House and two years prior is an important and long overdue public service. It ensures the continuation of the half-century-long tradition of Oval Office transparency in which Americans are able to review their commander in chief’s taxes. It also ensures that legal wrangling over more than three-and-a-half years couldn’t keep the Democrats on the House Ways and Means Committee from obtaining the tax documents guaranteed to them under federal law.

But the result is still unsatisfying. The returns don’t go back to Trump’s decades as a taxpayer before he ran for president in 2016 and won in a giant upset, even though presidents from Richard Nixon on have released returns from the years leading up to their campaigns. It’s an important principle to follow as a matter of historical record. It also would have been a warning shot to any future presidents who may want to keep their tax returns private.

Trump based his run on his personal brand as a savvy business operator, which was, in fact, a myth and a legend — an act of misdirection so seemingly profound it would likely make fabulist Rep.-elect George Santos (R-N.Y.) blush. Full disclosure of those taxes would have meant that future voters would have at the very least, been able to see Trump wasn’t the business whiz he claimed. And it might have made a difference in an election where Trump won the Electoral College over Democratic rival Hillary Clinton by a combined 79,646 votes in the key swing states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin out of more than 136 million cast nationally. Future voters surely deserve that information given that Trump is running to reclaim the presidency, in the 2024 election.

Trump had starred in “The Apprentice” for over a decade, a show that resurrected a moribund career that included having his businesses declare bankruptcy multiple times. News reports also have shown Trump to have been a hugely irresponsible financial risk-taker who reportedly stiffed vendors and lawyers. Several analyses of Trump’s wealth have even found he’d be far richer if he had just stuck his family inheritance in an indexed fund and watched it appreciate over time. But we can’t fully judge Trump’s claims about his pre-presidency business acumen since the documents now public cover only calendar years 2015-20.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-biggest-mistake-democrats-made-when-they-asked-for-trump-s-taxes/ar-AA15PkWt

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The biggest mistake Democrats made when they asked for Trump's taxes (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 OP
They took what they could get, and it took years to pry even these out Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #1
Nailed it republianmushroom Dec 2022 #2
Bullshit .... Lovie777 Dec 2022 #3
This is a foolish criticism PJMcK Dec 2022 #4
Who says that they need to show a legislative reason ? MichMan Dec 2022 #6
Legislative legitimacy PJMcK Jan 2023 #9
Oh please. More Dem bashing. We here know better, and how long it took to get just... brush Dec 2022 #5
Gushing rubes considered him "smart" for weaselling out of paying taxes. czarjak Dec 2022 #7
These few years are enough to see the pattern of corruption and evasion that we all knew was there.. lees1975 Dec 2022 #8
The biggest mistake that Democrats made markodochartaigh Jan 2023 #10
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. They took what they could get, and it took years to pry even these out
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 02:15 PM
Dec 2022

Congressional Democrats had a lot better 'case' for asking for taxes during his candidacy/presidency than they did for the prior years.

Not a slight at you YMBL, but this is just more of the typical Democrat-bashing by the M$M in many ways.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
4. This is a foolish criticism
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 02:37 PM
Dec 2022

The Committee had to have a legitimate legislative reason for examining Trump's taxes. They couldn't simply go on a fishing exhibition which is what this writer is suggesting.

The point is, the president needs to be transparent about his/her personal finances so the electorate can be assured that they understand the president's motives. Trump was opaque and we have no idea what is influences were. Although we can speculate based on his behavior, his finances paint a clearer picture.

Financial transparency should be a requirement for presidential eligibility in this modern world. We ain't in the 18th century anymore and an awful lot has changed in the United States since then. Let's get current with the 21st century since we're already more than a fifth of the way through it.

MichMan

(11,932 posts)
6. Who says that they need to show a legislative reason ?
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 03:33 PM
Dec 2022

That would initially seem somewhat reasonable, but I'm not sure their legal authority has those contraints, since they were ultimately released to the general public.

Any reason that the Senate couldn't now go back much further?

brush

(53,784 posts)
5. Oh please. More Dem bashing. We here know better, and how long it took to get just...
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 02:44 PM
Dec 2022

those few years of the crooks taxes.

lees1975

(3,860 posts)
8. These few years are enough to see the pattern of corruption and evasion that we all knew was there..
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 11:05 PM
Dec 2022

He's a cheat and he will get away with it.

markodochartaigh

(1,138 posts)
10. The biggest mistake that Democrats made
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 09:51 AM
Jan 2023

was not building a time machine so that they could go back and address all of their critics' concerns.
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