What Can the House Do to Address Santos' Falsehoods?
On the campaign trail, Rep.-elect George Santos, a Republican who ultimately flipped a Democratic seat in New York, misled voters about his work and educational history, his familys heritage, his past philanthropic efforts and his business dealings.
His litany of fabrications has raised questions as to whether Santos, who was elected last month to represent parts of northern Long Island and northeast Queens, will be allowed to take his seat next week when Congress convenes or thrown out once he is sworn in.
But House Republican leaders, who have so far remained silent amid the persistent questions about Santos, are unlikely to punish him in any significant way. Even if they could force him out of Congress, it would prompt a special election in a swing seat, setting up a potential blow to the partys already precarious majority.
And Santos has pledged to vote for Rep. Kevin McCarthy of California, the Republican leader, for speaker next week as McCarthy faces a rebellion on the right and needs every vote he can get.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-address-santos-falsehoods-192658321.html
Ocelot II
(115,702 posts)Chances are, nothing.
GreenWave
(6,754 posts)SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,806 posts)patricia92243
(12,595 posts)lees1975
(3,859 posts)a congressional seat is a flaw in the electoral and recall system. But how is it that his opponents, primary and general election, didn't major on his lies?
Irish_Dem
(47,092 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)every vote he can scrounge.
Irish_Dem
(47,092 posts)Exactly, no way they are going to give up a seat right now.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)aside from their signature swamp-rattery, no one knows what they'll be doing.
Irish_Dem
(47,092 posts)Flying monkeys and swamp rats all going at each other.
With a mystery element because we don't know what will happen.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)enjoyably funny, but great imagery too, posted by JHB this morning:
Irish_Dem
(47,092 posts)Yes I hope the GOP out of control rabid dogs hurl themselves over a cliff.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)work together to protect the stability of our democracy from. But yes! On to the battles of 2023...!
Irish_Dem
(47,092 posts)And preserving our national character reflecting integrity and honesty.
That is all gone now.
Happy New Year!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I always knew that extremism was too dysfunctional to allow integrity and recognized its severe dependence on self deception and deceits of others.
I didn't realize before seeing it happen, though, how spread and "normalization" of extremism itself poisoned national integrity and the even the basic self honesty needed for self protection. A more dangerous infectious disease by far than Covid, which couldn't have killed over a million Americans without it.
Irish_Dem
(47,092 posts)The Putin GOP creates hatred, division, chaos across the country for the purpose of gaining
permanent power and access to US financial assets.
Right out of the KGB handbook.
Yes quite a shock to see the American people vote to end democracy
and reject science and education. To the point their lives are in danger.
I think there are going to be a number of PhD dissertations on the topic down the road.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)an extravagance of new questions leading to leaps in knowledge. I envy those who could see the horrific forced awarenesses we went through, though, as mostly great opportunities to advance understanding.
At least we now have confirmation of the existence and anti-democratic potentials of left wing authoritarianism. In 2016 we could observe it in action, threatening the sovereignty of voters in our own party, and wonder in shock at what we saw, but googling brought no answers. Scientists were also observing, though, and thank goodness. The attacks alone caused the Democratic Party to tighten up some party rules, etc, but with new knowledge we'll hopefully be better able to prepare for additional challenges in future.
Nationally too of course. It's unlikely for the foreseeable future that the GOP will be able to join in substantive action to limit the dangers of authoritarianism since it's such a big driver on the right. This'll still be above all our battle. As always.
Irish_Dem
(47,092 posts)We had a break after WWII. The world wanted peace.
Soldiers who made it home just wanted to have families and live quiet lives.
But the world once again is lining up: autocratic regimes against democracies.
The autocracies will use any means possible in their quest for power.
The want power, wealth, resources, land. And they will fight hard for it.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Just gotta keep it up.
As for what we can do about Santos: leave him hanging around the Republicans' necks.
Irish_Dem
(47,092 posts)Putin's invasion of Ukraine finally got the message through to many.
China is going to be a big threat as well.
We are going to have to fight back.
Oh yes Santos is going to be an embarrassment to the GOP.
But highly entertaining.
Right, how is Santos different from the other GOP congress critters?
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)My tax money is being spent on lying lunatics that don't want to govern. What a rip-off.
Irish_Dem
(47,092 posts)Also, I wonder what the total price tag will be for all of Trump's crimes?
His grift of the US government, the cost of investigations, etc.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)need to undo by recall petition ..who is George Santos..who will be a vote in our house..talk about chaos, mayhem, cheats, liars, who is Geoge Santos..may the full force of the investigations weigh heavily, mightily, upon his head..imagine.
Security clearance???
Will "who is George Santos" pass..??? TRUSTWORTHYNESS ..
Through the process of election and selection to a seat in the House of Representatives or Senate comes with it a certain public seal of access to information of a sensitive nature. (Few voters likely think about this when they vote, but its a key reason trustworthiness often plays a major role in politicking). Both the House and Senate do have security offices and staff with the responsibility for overseeing access to classified information, among other things.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)No buyer's remorse. Their next chance to get rid of him comes in two years.
But by then he may have developed sufficient support among other constituents and big money backers to overcome any anger or remorse that might remain. Voters are notoriously fickle and foolable after all, especially HIS types of voters, and money can buy him a shiny new image.
Wonder what persona they might choose? REBORN pathological liar, of course, but reborn as what? In two years he could restyled as "Progressive" like Sinema or as a young male MT Greene; may sound like a stretch, but both constituencies keep doors open for new people to believe in and have some important things in common. Wonder if there's a market for a Hispanic Christian nationalist who opposes capitalism but passionately supports for-profit MfA?
Yeah, I'm not being nice to his voters. Whatever, his constituents won't have two years to smarten up. The professional mindfuckers are already in their heads, just need their orders.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)every way..this is one time we need to see the airwaves saturated with who, and what he isn't..and what he is, a GD LIAR!!! I have, and I am sure others have, their ideas..but not wanting to be a conspiracy theorist..I will hold my gut feeling about him..
Listened to Meidas Bros last night..Ben is pissed..never heard him so angry..
who would have thunk, Sinema, and I supported her..may Gallego prevail in '24..
Happy New Year to you
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)persecute him. The press certainly can persecute him, but that's their decision.
My only "conspiracy theory," not needing any wackadoo-ry at all, is that the NYT watched this candidate's antics playing out in their own living room and delayed reporting on him until after a Republican (him) was safely elected to that seat.
Irish_Dem
(47,092 posts)No need to change his image?
Skittles
(153,160 posts)INDEED
MissMillie
(38,559 posts)And no, I'm not happy about that, but I think that's what's going to happen.
The GOP will "primary" him.
His constituents feel duped. They do.
They're actually doing the whole "Fool me once... shame.... 'won't get fooled again'" stuff.
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)Thanks for the thread Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)They wont even refuse to seat him, which is the least they can do.
I figure theyll order him to paint Democrats Go Home 100 times on the Capitol then tell him not to do it again.