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Jilly_in_VA

(9,966 posts)
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 03:27 PM Jan 2023

Inside The Online Community Where Home-Schoolers Learn How To Turn Their Kids Into 'Wonderful Nazis'

By Christopher Mathias

On Nov. 5, 2021, a married couple calling themselves “Mr. and Mrs. Saxon” appeared on the neo-Nazi podcast “Achtung Amerikaner” to plug a new project: a social media channel dedicated to helping American parents home-school their children.

“We are so deeply invested into making sure that that child becomes a wonderful Nazi,” Mrs. Saxon told the podcast’s host. “And by home-schooling, we’re going to get that done.”

The Saxons said they launched the “Dissident Homeschool” channel on Telegram after years of searching for and developing “Nazi-approved material” for their own home-schooled children — material they were eager to share.

The Dissident Homeschool channel — which now has nearly 2,500 subscribers — is replete with this material, including ready-made lesson plans authored by the Saxons on various subjects, like Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee (a “grand role model for young, white men”) and Martin Luther King Jr. (“the antithesis of our civilization and our people”).

There are copywork assignments available for parents to print out, so that their children can learn cursive by writing out quotes from Adolf Hitler. There are recommended reading lists with bits of advice like “do not give them Jewish media content,” and there are tips for ensuring that home-schooling parents are in “full compliance with the law” so that “the state” doesn’t interfere.

The Saxons also frequently update their followers on their progress home-schooling their own children. In one since-deleted post to Telegram, they posted an audio message of their kids shouting “Sieg Heil” — the German phrase for “hail victory” that was used by the Nazis.

Over the past year, the Dissident Homeschool channel has become a community for like-minded fascists who see home schooling as integral to whites wresting control of America. The Saxons created this community while hiding behind a fake last name, but HuffPost has reviewed evidence indicating they are Logan and Katja Lawrence of Upper Sandusky, Ohio. Logan, until earlier this week, worked for his family’s insurance company while Katja taught the kids at home.

The Anonymous Comrades Collective, a group of anti-fascist researchers, first uncovered evidence suggesting the Lawrences are behind Dissident Homeschool. HuffPost has verified the collective’s research.

The Lawrences did not respond to repeated requests for comment made via phone calls, text messages and emails. A HuffPost reporter also left a message in the Dissident Homeschool channel asking Mr. and Mrs. Saxon for comment about the Anonymous Comrades Collective’s research. That message was immediately deleted by the channel’s administrators, who then disabled the channel’s comment and chat functions.

A short time later, Katja Lawrence deleted her Facebook page.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/home-school-nazis-telegram-dissident-saxon_n_63d596c4e4b01a43638e6a0a

I am not anti-homeschooling, but I am anti-Nazi
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Inside The Online Community Where Home-Schoolers Learn How To Turn Their Kids Into 'Wonderful Nazis' (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Jan 2023 OP
Unbelievable bucolic_frolic Jan 2023 #1
There is no going back to the prehill Hillary Clinton campaign i.e. last chance to save America Eliot Rosewater Jan 2023 #2
More young people vote now Elessar Zappa Jan 2023 #6
Little more than 1 in 4 (27%) last time, when Roe was taken, etc. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2023 #9
We need educational standards that would not allow this. Liberty Belle Jan 2023 #3
Agree 1000%! Shipwack Jan 2023 #11
Logan and Katja Lawrence of Upper Sandusky, Ohio run this site. Midnight Writer Jan 2023 #4
There is a place for homeschooling but I fear the lack of oversight. It is ripe for covering up hlthe2b Jan 2023 #5
The Ohio Nazi couple: dalton99a Jan 2023 #7
I don't think Douchebeard Doughboy up there would be able to pass the Aristus Jan 2023 #10
They need a field trip to Normandy, see the graves, and then Auschwitz-- Timeflyer Jan 2023 #8
GROOMING Skittles Jan 2023 #12

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
2. There is no going back to the prehill Hillary Clinton campaign i.e. last chance to save America
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 03:32 PM
Jan 2023

The election of the stupid one has opened the door for the fascism and the Nazi Party and the KKK and the racists and the bigots and the anti Gay anti Latino anti-Muslim anti Black movement to just get stronger and stronger regardless of who is in control whether that be trump or deSantis.

Hell, there are still millions of people who do not understand how negatively talking about Hillary Clinton resulted in millions of people not voting who might have otherwise voted, plus we have voter apathy especially in young people beyond any reason or understanding.

Elessar Zappa

(13,975 posts)
6. More young people vote now
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 03:52 PM
Jan 2023

than in any recent decade. Yes, more still need to vote, but it’s not the youngsters who are killing us.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
9. Little more than 1 in 4 (27%) last time, when Roe was taken, etc.
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 05:48 PM
Jan 2023

I dont know what to do, it is our fault that they dont see what the importance is.

Yes, half of everybody else does not vote, it is all our faults.

There is a poster here, Mister Ed, who defends the young voters and explains the problem. I have to admit before I read what she or he said I was pissed.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
3. We need educational standards that would not allow this.
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 03:34 PM
Jan 2023

A school based on an ideology of oppressing, hating or exterminating minority groups should be viewed as a danger to public safety and banned.

It's one thing for adults to espouse obnoxious beliefs, and quite another to stand idly by and allow the indoctrination of chldren.

Just as there are standards for homeschooling to teach children how to read and write, we need requirements that prohibit a homeschool curriculum from teaching that hate and discrimination are okay, especially ideologies that espouse violence.

The children of such monstrous parents belong in a public school, to help undo the brainwashing they are no doubt getting at home.

I am not a fan of homeschooling in most cases, though there are exceptions.

Every right-wing hate group encourages their members to homeschool their children. We should be very afraid of these results and more importantly save those children from growing up to be racist, bigoted hatemongers and potential future killers.

Shipwack

(2,162 posts)
11. Agree 1000%!
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 09:08 PM
Jan 2023

The worst thing about homeschooling is how unregulated it is in many states. No oversight on children's progress, or at best a yearly checkup.

Remember that TV show about the huge family, "21 and Counting", or something like that? They were homeschooled. The eldest was put in charge of "teaching", which meant she changed the video cassettes that "taught" them. Of course, the advantage of homeschooling is that it was easier for them to cover up the sexual abuse that occurred.

When I was in the Navy, I knew of two shipmates that had been homeschooled. One was incredibly smart. His parents were both university professors (not that being a university professor is a guarantee of being a good teacher of K-12 subjects).

The other guy was racist and dumb as a rock. His wife was no better. They homeschooled their chdren in a house where all the windows were covered up with tinfoil (he happened to have been my neighbor). I have grave doubts about the quality of his children's education.

Midnight Writer

(21,753 posts)
4. Logan and Katja Lawrence of Upper Sandusky, Ohio run this site.
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 03:36 PM
Jan 2023

In their photos, they look about as "Master Race-y" as you would imagine.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
5. There is a place for homeschooling but I fear the lack of oversight. It is ripe for covering up
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 03:36 PM
Jan 2023

a multitude of "sins," including child abuse.

That said, I have friends who have fostered some of the most disadvantaged or developmentally disabled kids and the one-on-one work they provided to teach these kids surely has made all the difference.

But, it should not be totally free of oversight.

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
10. I don't think Douchebeard Doughboy up there would be able to pass the
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 08:09 PM
Jan 2023

rigid physical fitness standards of history's real Nazis. They required calisthenics and distance-marching, not Gameboy and Netflix.

Timeflyer

(1,993 posts)
8. They need a field trip to Normandy, see the graves, and then Auschwitz--
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 04:26 PM
Jan 2023

but they are too stupid and stubborn to learn or change their minds, a fatal combo. Child abuse.

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