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elleng

(130,974 posts)
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:18 PM Jul 2012

In Tracing Romney’s Role at Bain, a Convoluted Timeline

'The attacks have thrust Mr. Romney’s three-year leave to the center of the presidential campaign, questioning a central component of Mr. Romney’s case for election — that his business experience gives him the experience to steer the economy on the right course — while putting his campaign on the defensive when it could be attacking Mr. Obama’s job record. . .

The complications arise in part from the ways in which Bain was organized. When Bain Capital was originally created, Mr. Romney was given full control of the private equity firm’s new management company, Bain Capital Inc. When Mr. Romney went on leave in 1999, he retained ownership of that entity — and with it, in theory at least, the power to control Bain Capital’s funds.

At the time, Mr. Romney appeared to be leaving open the possibility that he would return to Bain. His leave was originally characterized as part time, and he told The Boston Herald in 1999 that he would be providing input on investment and personnel decisions in his absence.

Campaign and company officials now say that the Olympics job quickly became all-consuming and that Mr. Romney delegated his management powers to the active partners, most of them longtime friends and colleagues. And in recent years, Mr. Romney has been far more definitive in characterizing his departure.

“Since Feb. 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way,” reads a footnote to Mr. Romney’s most recent federal financial disclosures.

Yet because he retained technical control of Bain Capital’s management and because his wealth remained heavily tied up with the firm, Mr. Romney’s name or signature appears on dozens of documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission between February 1999 and August 2001, when he finalized a retirement deal with the active Bain partners and transferred to them his shares of Bain’s management entity. . .

Some of the filings reflect the complex nature of private equity funds: each Bain fund was run by a separate general partnership — one that included all of Bain’s executives — that in turn was legally controlled by Mr. Romney through his management entity.

“It’s a disconnect between the ownership interest and managerial functions,” said Harvey L. Pitt, who served as S.E.C. chairman under President George W. Bush. “When Bain takes positions in public companies, they’re required to show anyone who has an ownership interest that could be the effective equivalent of control. So Romney has to be shown on those filings. If they didn’t show them on those filings, they would have broken the law. But it has nothing to do with who’s actually running Bain Capital.” '

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/us/politics/when-did-romney-step-back-from-bain-its-complicated.html?hp

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In Tracing Romney’s Role at Bain, a Convoluted Timeline (Original Post) elleng Jul 2012 OP
''...his wealth remained heavily tied up with the firm...'' Romney was the SOLE OWNER of Bain. Tx4obama Jul 2012 #1
The story put it right. Igel Jul 2012 #2
Mother Jones's working timeline & My blog post works issue MIDNITERIDER1438 Jul 2012 #3

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
1. ''...his wealth remained heavily tied up with the firm...'' Romney was the SOLE OWNER of Bain.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jul 2012

He was the CEO, sole owner, and held 100% of the stock.

HE was completely tied to the firm - since HE was the only one that owned it. Romney = Bain and Bain = Romney.

I didn't matter who the day to day manager was - the buck stops with the OWNER - the OWNER is the one that has to take full responsibility for what the company does and profits from

I wish these news articles would spell it out more clearly to their readers.



Igel

(35,320 posts)
2. The story put it right.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 12:41 PM
Jul 2012

Bain was completely tied to Romney, since it was 100% owned.

But Romney had his assets "heavily tied up in the firm", since a large percentage of but not all of his assets were in Bain.

My mother owned a portion of AIG back in 2008. It was a stupid investment. Did the buck for AIG stop with her? Yes and no. If she owned more, if she behaved irresponsibly, perhaps; but in any event, those that were appointed to the board appointed irresponsible employees and that, in the end, punished my mother. No need for criminal or civil actions when she's hurt in the only way she has any input.

Authority for the executive branch of the US government comes from the president. "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America." (The core of the 'unitary executive' argument is that all power is vested in the president, since the Constitution places no executive authority elsewhere.) He delegates it, but it's his authority. The guy in Arizona behind Fast and Furious was an employee of President Obama, who has full responsibility for him and all his actions. If we want to be picky. Do you like where that leads you? Because in the end, your argument is that Obama was irresponsible and is personally responsible for Fast and Furious. I guess we really want the news articles to spell it out more clearly: The actions that led to an American's death were Obama's full responsibility.

Except in this case we know that it doesn't work that way. In fact, we know that it usually doesn't work that way when you delegate authority and it goes from one layer down to the next. Esp. when you're on leave.

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