Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Dulcinea

(6,977 posts)
Mon Nov 20, 2023, 09:06 AM Nov 2023

Trump to test the limits of the First Amendment at high-stakes hearing over gag order constitutionality

CNN — Former President Donald Trump will test the limits of his free speech rights Monday when he argues to a Washington, DC, appeals court that a gag order placed on him in his federal election subversion criminal case is not constitutionally sound.

The high-stakes hearing before the US DC Circuit Court of Appeals will represent Trump’s latest bid to undo the gag order issued by a federal judge last month, an effort he says is necessary to defend himself outside the courtroom as he campaigns for a second term in the White House.

The gag order from District Judge Tanya Chutkan restricts Trump’s ability to publicly target court personnel, potential witnesses, special counsel Jack Smith and his staff. Prosecutors argue such attacks could endanger some people close to the case.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/19/politics/election-gag-order-trump-appeal/index.html#:~:text=Former%20President%20Donald%20Trump%20will,case%20is%20not%20constitutionally%20sound.

5 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Trump to test the limits of the First Amendment at high-stakes hearing over gag order constitutionality (Original Post) Dulcinea Nov 2023 OP
Why doesn't Trump just get it over with? no_hypocrisy Nov 2023 #1
He doesn't want you or me to be allowed to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater. Mister Ed Nov 2023 #2
In light of what the Orange Bozo has always gotten away with, response to the headline Magoo48 Nov 2023 #3
So if hildegaard28 Nov 2023 #4
The first amendment doesn't give one the right to threaten others Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2023 #5

no_hypocrisy

(47,195 posts)
1. Why doesn't Trump just get it over with?
Mon Nov 20, 2023, 09:16 AM
Nov 2023

Get the USSC to overrule its decision and allow you to shout “Fire!” In a theater. To me, that’s where we’re heading.

Mister Ed

(6,153 posts)
2. He doesn't want you or me to be allowed to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
Mon Nov 20, 2023, 09:55 AM
Nov 2023

He wants to be free to do that himself, and to throw anyone else who does it into a gulag.

Magoo48

(4,866 posts)
3. In light of what the Orange Bozo has always gotten away with, response to the headline
Mon Nov 20, 2023, 10:04 AM
Nov 2023

Blah, blah, blah…so fucking what.

hildegaard28

(394 posts)
4. So if
Mon Nov 20, 2023, 11:43 AM
Nov 2023

The courts rule in Trump's favor, what implications would that have on other cases(non-Trump cases) where a gag order is required? Would the courts be barred from enforcing gag orders against, say, a gangster that is trying to intimidate witnesses because it's a violation of the gangster's first amendment rights?

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(110,817 posts)
5. The first amendment doesn't give one the right to threaten others
Mon Nov 20, 2023, 02:40 PM
Nov 2023

Courts have said so repeatedly. Grow the fuck up Donny.

Latest Discussions»Editorials & Other Articles»Trump to test the limits ...