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Beringia

(5,334 posts)
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 07:26 PM 16 hrs ago

The Democratic Party in Crisis: Autopsy, Norm Solomon

The Guardian Dec 30, 2025

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/dec/30/democratic-party-autopsy-report-2024-election

The Democratic National Committee’s decision to block the release of its own autopsy report on the 2024 election is stunning but not surprising. Averse to unpleasant candor, the Democrats’ governing body functions more like a PR firm than a political organization devoted to grassroots capacities for winning elections. The party’s leaders pose as immune from critique, even if they have led the party to disaster.

Unwilling to depart from the party establishment’s culture of conformity, the DNC has remained under the Biden-Harris shadow throughout 2025. Release of an official autopsy might have shown that party leaders actually want to encourage public discourse about the missteps that enabled Donald Trump to become president again. But the DNC is proceeding as if there’s nothing to be learned from the tragic debacle of 2024 that its leaders don’t already know – and they don’t need to share their purported wisdom with anyone else.


The Blue Road to Trump Hell: The Democrats' Loss in 2024 & How to Revive the Party



https://democraticautopsy.org/
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BeyondGeography

(40,801 posts)
4. Been doing that right along with you for the last 45 years
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 07:47 PM
16 hrs ago

Now look where we are.

Einstein’s quote about insanity comes to mind.

usonian

(23,428 posts)
5. I strongy disagree on that quote, but I have posted a ton on the party slugs. I will post in this thread shortly.
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 08:07 PM
16 hrs ago

And propose a less "Catchy" but more real statement at the end.
Spoiler alert:
You might be foolhardy if you repeatedly try the same thing, when it's statistically and physically very close to impossible, and quite often what was impossible is taken for granted now.

This has very solid backing from smarter people than myself.

I so hate that overused and outright wrong "definition of insanity".

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19643403

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/einstein-wrong-truly-insane-do-same-thing-expect-results-andrews

Bradley Andrews

President at Worley

Published Aug 3, 2016

We’ve all seen it. Einstein’s famous quote “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." It’s used in business and societal circles all the time. In fact, you probably know someone who has it pinned up above their desk or is using it as a signature tag on their email. At first glance you can see the quote’s appeal; it’s short, catchy and has a famous author (although while Einstein is widely attributed of the quote, there is no evidence that he ever used it).

It’s used so much that is it has taken on a nearly dogma like status; but does it really hold true? I imagine if Albert did indeed say it, he was probably referring to the Scientific Method, where through experimentation you have constants you control tightly, and then adjust variables to understand causality and ramifications. In a closed and tightly controlled experiment it would be a poor use of ones time to continue do the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome. But in the world of business nothing is ever a closed system; so do we truly take the time to understand the variables in our “experiment” before we change the controllable? There are many cases where it is perfectly reasonable to expect different results from re-trying a failed approach as conditions change.

One remarkable example is British Airways Flight 9 from London to New Zealand, which lost power in all four engines as a result of flying through a volcanic ash cloud from an eruption of Mount Galunggung. It’s an incredible story of the pilots staying calm and strategizing through the various survival options. For them, in the end, sticking to the engine restart process, failing time and time again while expecting and hoping for a different result, actually worked. The engines eventually restarted and they were able to land safely.




———— Commentary on this ———

YOU DON’T NEED QUANTUM MECHANICS, with its uncertainty principle and observer effects, though they are the way the world works at microscopic level, and everything “real” is built from those parts.

A batter will swing repeatedly at fastballs (or curve balls, or change-ups) and not get the same result each time. You can argue that no two pitches are exactly the same. WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD. Nothing is ever the same twice. That happens only in mental experiments.

In the real world, you can do the same thing over and over and get different results every time, because nothing is the same twice. Water falling on a rock may eventually create a bowl, or channel. Only things with a near-zero probability are not worth trying repeatedly, and yet, people play long odds at the lottery, and someone always wins if lotteries are rolled over.

Playing long odds is not insane. It may be foolhardy, or it may be genius.

Dynamic systems are often chaotic. A gentle change, applied repeatedly, may cause a “tipping point” in a system. I learned this at an early age, when my Dad ran for public office. He won a City Council seat after repeated failures, because every attempt changed the game. He gained greater recognition and respect.

So even WITHOUT quantum mechanics, Ted Williams failed to hit 60% of the time because he couldn’t estimate the momentum and position of a baseball, and his .400 plus average is legendary. Heisenberg didn’t coach him.

A catcher can’t influence the trajectory and velocity of a pitch, despite signals and mitt placement. Neils Bohr wasn’t behind the plate.

_____________

Einstein's Parable of Quantum Insanity

Einstein refused to believe in the inherent unpredictability of the world. Is the subatomic world insane, or just subtle?

By Frank Wilczek, Quanta Magazine on September 23, 2015

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/einstein-s-parable-of-quantum-insanity/

From Quanta Magazine (find original story here).

( https://www.quantamagazine.org/einsteins-parable-of-quantum-insanity-20150910/ )

First of all, note that what Einstein describes as insanity is, according to quantum theory, the way the world actually works. In quantum mechanics you can do the same thing many times and get different results. Indeed, that is the premise underlying great high-energy particle colliders. In those colliders, physicists bash together the same particles in precisely the same way, trillions upon trillions of times. Are they all insane to do so? It would seem they are not, since they have garnered a stupendous variety of results.

Of course Einstein, famously, did not believe in the inherent unpredictability of the world, saying “God does not play dice.” Yet in playing dice, we act out Einstein Insanity: We do the same thing over and over — namely, roll the dice — and we correctly anticipate different results. Is it really insane to play dice? If so, it’s a very common form of madness!

We can evade the diagnosis by arguing that in practice one never throws the dice in precisely the same way. Very small changes in the initial conditions can alter the results. The underlying idea here is that in situations where we can’t predict precisely what’s going to happen next, it’s because there are aspects of the current situation that we haven’t taken into account. Similar pleas of ignorance can defend many other applications of probability from the accusation of Einstein Insanity to which they are all exposed. If we did have full access to reality, according to this argument, the results of our actions would never be in doubt.

In classical mechanics:

To know the state of a system of particles, one must know not only their positions, but also their velocities and their masses. Armed with that information, classical mechanics predicts the system’s future evolution completely. Classical mechanics, given its broader concept of physical reality, is the very model of Einstein Sanity.

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But we don’t in the real world. Only in mental models and physics exams.

I'll close this post by saying: You might be foolhardy if you repeatedly try the same thing, when it's statistically and physically very close to impossible, and quite often what was impossible is taken for granted now.

Beringia

(5,334 posts)
7. Democratic Socialist too, the current New York City Mayor Mamdani
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 08:26 PM
15 hrs ago

He is sworn in January 1 by Bernie Sanders

Zohran Mamdani is the current Mayor of New York City and a self-described democratic socialist. He officially assumed office at midnight on January 1, 2026

OAITW r.2.0

(31,441 posts)
8. So, social Democrats to the left of the Party ought to combine and destroy the fascist Republican Party...otherwise know
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 08:35 PM
15 hrs ago

truthfully known as the Organized Crime Party. Operating in all 50 states. Need RICO against this "party".

usonian

(23,428 posts)
6. The Democcratic Party needs to be REVOLUTIONARY, not reactionary. That is how we win. PERIOD.
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 08:20 PM
15 hrs ago

First. Transcript of the above: https://pastebin.com/raw/JBKR4zTv

Second: Posted earlier today:

Everyone, please concentrate on a positive program and actions to smash the Party of Pedo Protectors
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20899161

From that post:
I have posted some action items. I'll update in 2026

https://www.democraticunderground.com/13244015
A grassroots revolution is needed for the party to win.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/13243807
The fascists have a playbook. Do we?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10114421
An open letter to Democratic leaders. This is our Normandy. Marshall all our forces or lose to fascist rule.

And INDIVISIBLE is leading the way. Bernie is leading the way. AOC is leading the way.
Indivisible primary campaign to replace cowardice with backbone.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220796623

This all leads to one big announcement. Today, Indivisible is launching the largest Democratic primary program we’ve ever run.
👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆

excerpt:


Our 2026 Primary Program Starts Today
We have been failed by Democratic leadership, again.

After the largest mass protest in U.S. history, after a historically successful election for Democrats, and while poll after poll shows that Republicans have the weaker hand in the shutdown fight, Democrats in the Senate have chosen to surrender. As minority leader, Chuck Schumer has demonstrated that he has no strategy, no savvy, and no spine. By allowing his caucus to cave to the will of the regime, he has proven that Democratic leadership is defined by fecklessness in the face of authoritarianism.


That’s why Indivisible will be launching the largest primary program in our history, guided by a grassroots network that is pissed off.

We must turn the page on this era of cowardice. We must nominate and elect Democratic candidates who have an actual backbone. And we must ensure that the kind of failed leadership we see from Senator Schumer does not doom a future Democratic majority.


This country needs Democrats to fight like an actual opposition party to an authoritarian regime.

We need them to fight like lives depend on it, because they literally do. Republicans are working to strip away healthcare and food assistance from millions of Americans; they are enabling a would-be king to undermine our democracy; and they cheer on the invasion of our cities and kidnapping of our neighbors. And too many elected Democrats are content to watch from the sidelines as they do it—or worse, abet this machine of corruption and abuse.


In 2026, we say: no more.

If a Democratic candidate isn’t willing to leave it all on the field, it’s time for them to get out of the way or be pushed out of the way. If a Democratic candidate is flirting with the forces that elevated Trump and help him consolidate power, they have no place in the future of this party.


The Indivisible base is ready to fight for the Democratic Party we deserve.

Right now, we’re talking with our grassroots network to understand where they want to see this fight go. Indivisible groups are the leaders of this movement, and they are not backing down. Decisions on primaries will be guided by them. Victories over the status quo will be powered by them. And our new leaders will be accountable to them.


Because Indivisible understands the clock is ticking, and we don’t have time for dead weight in the Democratic Party. It’s time to clean house.


Coach Singletary put it bluntly:
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