The Media's Obamacare "Horror Stories" prove to be mostly BULLSHIT - if anybody would investigate
... I've been wondering if anybody was investigating all this anecdotal evidence of Obamacare disasters inflicted on people who have had insurance in the individual market. Knowing the penchant for Republicans to trot out half-truth reports which the GOP toadies of M$M are only too happy to pass on - WITHOUT INVESTIGATING THE SITUATION FULLY (Fuck "fully" try "at all" .
In the past horror stories have been bounced around by the clowns of M$M only later to be shown to be mostly half truths and egregious distrotions (i.e. LIEs). - Of course, the FACTS got virtually ZERO air time from Republican sucking M$M clowns.
Here's some Obamacare horror stories courtesy of GOP toadies of M$M. This article should be referred to in comments all over the internet (including Corporate media sites) to shove the truth in the faces of people who still don't know that M$M gossip mongers don't investigate any of the GOP Propaganda they cheerfully repeat on the air for the suckers to swallow.
http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/11/05/the-medias-obamacare-horror-stories-continue-to/196753
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MYTH: ACA Caused Family's Premiums To Double. Hannity's October 11 show also featured Allison and Curt De Nijs, a couple who claimed their existing health care plan was being cancelled and their new health insurance policy would double:
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ALLISON DE NIJS: Well, we became self-employed three years ago. And over the course of three years, our insurance has jumped 49 percent. We just got our letter from our insurance carrier that our policy is going to be terminated, and we're going to be transitioned to an ACA-compliant policy because it has to include essential health care benefits.
HANNITY: Right.
ALLISON DE NIJS: And we don't even have insurance for our daughter, who has a pre-existing condition. So we're looking at probably $20,000 in premiums next year.
HANNITY: Up from?
ALLISON DE NIJS: Up from -- well, originally, it started out at about $740 and going up to $1,105 next year.
HANNITY: Wow.
ALLISON DE NIJS: And plus our daughter's going to be about $600 a month.
HANNITY: So you're going to pay 13 -- 19,000 grand a year in health insurance, between you -- just you guys and your daughter, $19,000?
ALLISON DE NIJS: Yes.
HANNITY: Which is how much higher than what it was? Twice as high?
CURT DE NIJS: Twice as high. (Fox News, Hannity, 10/11/13)
REALITY: The Couple Had Not Compared ACA Plan Pricing And Would Likely Save Money On The Exchange. Salon's Stern also contacted Allison De Nijs, who admitted that she had not shopped on the exchange. After researching their situation, Stern found that the couple would save 60% on their health care costs:
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I asked Allison if she'd shopped on the exchange, to see what a plan might cost under the new law. She said she hadn't done so because she'd heard the website was not working. Would she try it out when it's up and running? Perhaps, she said. She told me she has long opposed Obamacare, and that the president should have focused on tort reform as a solution to bringing down the price of healthcare.
I tried an experiment and shopped on the exchange for Allison and Kurt. Assuming they don't smoke and have a household income too high to be eligible for subsidies, I found that they would be able to get a plan for around $7,600, which would include coverage for their uninsured daughter. This would be about a 60 percent reduction from what they would have to pay on the pre-Obamacare market. (Salon, 10/18/13)
MYTH: ACA Caused Couple's Premiums To Increase By 50 To 72 Percent. Hannity also hosted Robbie and Tina Robinson, who claimed that their plan was being canceled and similar coverage would increase their policy's cost by 50 to 72 percent:
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ROBBIE ROBINSON: Well, Sean, I've been -- I've been self-employed for 20 years and --
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ROBBIE ROBINSON: But for about 20 years now. And recently, we heard from our insurance provider that our current policy will be canceled, no longer available when it ends. And our new policy that we can have won't have the same benefits to it. Anything similar, though, is going to rise between, like, 50 to 72 percent, and it'll have things in it that we have no choice. Like, we'll have to have maternity benefits. And we're not planning on having any more kids.
HANNITY: Yes.
ROBBIE ROBINSON: And we're going to have to have pediatric eye care and other things like that, and we -- our kids are all away from home.
HANNITY: Yes.
ROBBIE ROBINSON: So...
HANNITY: So it's not -- it's not -- it's not a plan that you need.
ROBBIE ROBINSON: Exactly. (Fox News, Hannity, 10/11/13)
REALITY: The Robinsons Could Access Coverage For 63 Percent Less Under ACA Exchanges. Stern contacted the Robinsons and found that they hadn't shopped for coverage on the exchanges, where they could have accessed a policy that would cost 63 percent less than their current plan:
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When I spoke to Robbie, he said he and Tina have been paying a little over $800 a month for their plan, about $10,000 a year. And the ACA-compliant policy that will cost 50-75 percent more? They said this information was related to them by their insurance agent.
Had they shopped on the exchange yet, I asked? No, Tina said, nor would they. They oppose Obamacare and want nothing to do with it. Fair enough, but they should know that I found a plan for them for, at most, $3,700 a year, 63 percent less than their current bill. It might cover things that they don't need, but so does every insurance policy. (Salon, 10/18/13)
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quadrature
(2,049 posts)after two months,
the top secret pricing of
Obamacare should be out in the open
by now.
TIA...
also, what state do these people live in?
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)So far the White House has said nobody has paid for the insurance yet. My worry on this is it is right after Christmas that people have to pay and who is going to have money left over to pay? Oh well we will just have to wait and see. Obviously things are never as bad as they seem.
Cha
(297,323 posts)thanks Bill USA
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)how many of the new ACA sign-ups are the result of anti-ACAers that went to the exchanges hoping to gain their 15 minutes of fame by going on Hannity with their ObamaCare Horror Story only to find their hopes dashed?
underpants
(182,830 posts)just a hunch but you can read in the story posted above. They didn't know they could save money because they didn't use the free information (and that is all the website is) because they DIDN'T BELIEVE IN IT
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)fertilizer?