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hue

(4,949 posts)
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 11:42 PM Jan 2014

Report: The Kochs, A Nazi Past, Oil & The Foundation of The Right

http://unknownjournal.wordpress.com/2010/10/06/%E2%96%BC-report-the-kochs-their-nazi-past-american-oil-the-foundation-of-republican-ideology/

Notorious Nazis Ilse Koch, her husband Karl Otto Koch and Erich Koch are the ghosts of Koch Industries, who seized the U.S. conservative political agenda years ago and seem capable of seizing the government in total through the Tea Party. Ilse Koch was the Nazi’s specialist in making objects from human skin; was the only woman charged with war crimes; and along with her husband was in charge of one of the most horrific horror camps in Nazi Germany.

Koch Industries is the child of the violence of Buchenwald, widely regarded as one of wartime Germany’s most notorious “death camps”.

Information connecting Ilse and Koch Industries is hard to find but is a string of fragments, pieces of information that connects the American and German Kochs and this connection gives us a clear image of the sentiment behind the Tea Party and conservative American politics since the 1950s. Where is the connection between the German Koch’s and Fred Koch? Besides evidence the American Koch was related to Ilse’s family, Erich Koch (a high level Nazi official in charge of Prussia) invites Fred Koch to sell his oil in Nazi Germany when he is banned from doing business in the US. After the fall of Nazi Germany, Erich Koch and Fred expand the oil empire to the Soviet Union. Erich Koch had been in charge of Prussia for Hitler so his ties to the Soviet Union ran deep. A few years later the Soviets took Fred Koch’s oil and prosecuted Erich for war crimes – Fred Koch returned to the US, became anti-communist, and was allowed to do business in the States again.
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Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
2. K & R. Let's never allow the lie that the Nazis weren't Right Wingers
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 05:24 AM
Feb 2014

go unchallenged. They have so much in common.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
3. Oh yes, I regularly come across the idiocy saying that the Nazis were leftists.
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 08:23 AM
Feb 2014

After all, the argument goes, look at the name of the NSDAP, "National Socialist German Workers Party". Proves they were socialists.

Of course, the response is, "Then you clearly believe that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Look at the name. Not to mention the German Democratic Republic."

I'm reminded of a bit from the British sitcom, Yes, Minister:

Sir Humphrey: East Yemen, isn't that a democracy?

Foreign Office Official: Its full name is the Peoples' Democratic Republic of East Yemen.

Sir Humphrey: Ah I see, so it's a communist dictatorship.

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
4. I'm sure you're aware
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 10:18 AM
Feb 2014

of a recent thread in which this account of the Kochs' lineage is disputed - their father being unrelated to those mentioned in this article. I'd like to see proof one way or the other, and once that is accomplished, either push forward with publicizing their Nazi connection or drop the Nazi references altogether. There's enough reason to despise the actions of the reprehensible Koch brothers without making ourselves look foolish by pushing unsubstantiated stories and claims; that's the right wing's job, after all.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. IIRC, Fred Koch immigrated from Netherlands.
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 08:26 PM
Feb 2014

However, Koch is a common German name, translating to English as "Cook". Origin is the Latin word cocus, "one who prepares food".

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
7. Not surprised. I read that Senator Prescott Bush had ties to the Nazis, too. And i know that GW Bush
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 08:31 PM
Feb 2014

has vast real estate in Paraguay, a place where I understand a good number of Nazis had fled.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
8. Koch products are in your stores: Vanity Fair, Brawny, Dixie, Mardi Gras, Angel Soft, Sparkle,
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 08:44 PM
Feb 2014
Quilted Northern, Stainmaster, Dacron, Cordura, Comforel, Antron, and others:

http://www.chailife.com/2011/02/boycott-koch-industries-avoid-these-brands/
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