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GoLeft TV

(3,910 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 12:16 PM Feb 2014

Telecom Trying to Outlaw Local ISPs

From Ring of Fire:

Last week, a bill was introduced to the Kansas legislature that would have a devastating effect on the growth and implementation of local fiber and municipal broadband in the state, if passed.

According to Ars Technica, the bill was introduced by John Federico on behalf of the Kansas Telecommunications Association, which is a lobbying group. Its members include Comcast, Time Warner, Cox, and Eagle Communications.

You can read the full article here at Ring of Fire.

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Telecom Trying to Outlaw Local ISPs (Original Post) GoLeft TV Feb 2014 OP
Corporate rule. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #1
It's what's happening here in this country. lark Feb 2014 #2
Only. If. We. Continue. To. Punkout. And. Let. Them. DeSwiss Feb 2014 #3
I see little evidence that we will do much about this. lark Feb 2014 #4
''You don't put new wine into old skins.'' DeSwiss Feb 2014 #12
Voting and LTTE are not going to help Doctor_J Feb 2014 #10
I hear that! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #16
The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us cantbeserious Feb 2014 #11
But we control it all. DeSwiss Feb 2014 #13
Roger That cantbeserious Feb 2014 #15
Precisely. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #17
Another article stated this is more ALEC legislation. summerschild Feb 2014 #5
They grovel at the feet sulphurdunn Feb 2014 #6
yes lets make it even more difficult for folks to get decent broadband dembotoz Feb 2014 #7
This serves the public interest how? Jack Rabbit Feb 2014 #8
Hears what I think Seedersandleechers Feb 2014 #9
Nailed it. GoLeft TV Feb 2014 #14
They also see what Moses Lake, WA, did, and that scares them more jmowreader Feb 2014 #18

lark

(23,099 posts)
2. It's what's happening here in this country.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 01:14 PM
Feb 2014

The ultra rich plotted and schemed and it's now all coming together when the Kochs admittedly are doing their dishonest best to buy a government even more in thrall to the 1%.


lark

(23,099 posts)
4. I see little evidence that we will do much about this.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 01:40 PM
Feb 2014

WE elected the supposedly progressive democrat and got another corporatist for the most part. I don't think a populist could win in a national election, don't think the TPB would let her/him take office. Washington Post threatened Bush, the crusading Katherine Graham dies mysteriously. The guy who had the good on the Repug theft of the 2004 election mysteriously dies with no real investigation. OWS smashed for daring to challenge the corporotacracy. When they first appeared, I was so hopeful, but all that's ashes now.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
12. ''You don't put new wine into old skins.''
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 04:04 PM
Feb 2014
- When enough of us figure that one out, we've a chance.

Whenever someone tells you that we've got to accept the system we've got now. And that there are no other systems that are better than the one we've got, always look at the person who is telling you this. It's usually someone who benefits from the existing system and would lose a lot if it was changed. It's like them saying: ''We've checked all the other systems and this is the best one of all of them -- the one with me in the castle.''

~Russell Brand

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
10. Voting and LTTE are not going to help
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 03:45 PM
Feb 2014

Something really ugly is going to have to start happening in order to get this turned around. Radical cancer requires radical treatment. If I were strategizing the thing, Hate Radio would be the primary target. The fascist stronghold would be tough to maintain without those 1200 propaganda outlets.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
16. I hear that!
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 06:19 PM
Feb 2014

I used to listen to Limbaugh some to get a feel for the level of dishonesty. Make no mistake, the guy is very effective at what he does. These hate mongers fill the heads of the vulnerable by the millions. Ending the fairness doctrine and buying up the AM radio stations was central to the right wing coup.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
13. But we control it all.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 04:07 PM
Feb 2014
- Because it can't run without us. That's why they have to keep us divided. And poor. And appreciative.

And scared we'll lose it all and end up in the streets.

But only ''we'' can shut it all down.

TOGETHER.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
17. Precisely.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 06:21 PM
Feb 2014

I was born in the early 1950s. I never dreamed such a powerful force for evil would emerge in this nation. All we heard growing up was about the evils of communism.

dembotoz

(16,804 posts)
7. yes lets make it even more difficult for folks to get decent broadband
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:06 PM
Feb 2014

what i find interesting is that putting infrastructure into areas with low population desity(ie Kansas) is really damn expensive.

so lets limit is even more.

I guess the legislators in kansas really do like their constituents barefoot and pregnant

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
8. This serves the public interest how?
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:18 PM
Feb 2014

Some politicians don't even try to hide their corruption any more.

I suppose Comcast, Time Warner, et al., have plans, if this bill goes down in flames as it ought, to bring the state of Kansas before the kangaroo commission of corporate lawyers under the TPP and complain that Kansas is cutting into their profits by allowing competition.

And when they get their way, a corporate spokesman will proclaim how lucky we are to live in the age of the free market.

Seedersandleechers

(3,044 posts)
9. Hears what I think
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:35 PM
Feb 2014

for what's worth. I live in Missouri and literally across the street is Kansas. I just received google fiber which gives me 100X the speed of what TWC or ATT&T can offer. They see competition nearby and they are shitting in their pants

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
18. They also see what Moses Lake, WA, did, and that scares them more
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 06:55 PM
Feb 2014

Moses Lake is a very spread-out town in central Washington with 20,000 residents. The Internet providers told ML that installing broadband there would be too expensive...so the city floated a bond and built it themselves. Now Moses Lake has the fastest Internet in the US, and for some reason the teabaggers down there (who are dependent on their government-built internet, their government-built irrigation canals and their government-built electric generating network of dams) still say the government can't do anything right.

The private providers know something even worse: Governments talk to each other.

Since the government is thoroughly capable of doing anything the private sector can, but they can do it cheaper and better because there's no profit motive involved, they HAVE to shut down the government.

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