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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 12:44 AM Feb 2014

Will Putin Send in the Tanks?

By Bill Powell
Filed: 2/20/14 at 11:01 AM | Updated: 2/20/14 at 1:01 PM

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This divide has been at Ukraine’s core for centuries. What’s unfolding now is nothing less than the violent struggle for a nation’s soul. To some current and former diplomats, what is surprising is not that Ukraine appears to be coming apart, but that it has taken this long into the post Soviet era for something like this to happen.

At its origins, more than ten centuries ago, what was known as “Kievan Russia” was, as James Billington wrote in his classic study of Russian culture, “closely linked with Western Europe—through trade and intermarriage with every important royal family of Western Christendom.”

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What we’re witnessing now, make no mistake, is the latest chapter of that struggle. And it is one in which Moscow has an important, inherent and obvious advantage: Ukraine matters more to President Vladimir Putin, and Russia, than it does to Barack Obama, or German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

The dissolution of the Soviet Union is the central, disastrous geopolitical fact of Putin’s life (See Newsweek cover story February 13, Putin’s Games). And among the new states that were created when the empire imploded, Ukraine was first among equals. It was, as Walter Russell Mead, professor and author at Bard College wrote recently, ``the largest and most important republic within the Soviet Union.”

If Putin dreams of reassembling a reasonable facsimile of the Soviet empire—and he does—then, as Russell wrote, ``everything pales beside the battle for Ukraine.”

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http://www.newsweek.com/will-putin-send-tanks-229631

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Will Putin Send in the Tanks? (Original Post) Purveyor Feb 2014 OP
Does this cold war era fear-mongering crap work for you? rdharma Feb 2014 #1
Yeah, but unfortunately, that's probably what we're going to have to deal with. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #5
Oh, I have no doubt of that. rdharma Feb 2014 #6
For which event? The men's short program? jberryhill Feb 2014 #2
Russia Will Not Invade Ukraine, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2014 #3
Does Putin have Drones??? blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #4
YES! Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #7
No. bemildred Feb 2014 #8
And if Ukraine reaches for NATO membership? cprise Feb 2014 #9
I'm sure we could find a way to start a war if we want to. bemildred Feb 2014 #10
 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
5. Yeah, but unfortunately, that's probably what we're going to have to deal with.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 06:19 PM
Feb 2014

TPTB are going to be milking as much WW3 fearmongering as they can out of this, no matter how implausible such a thing may be. Bank on it!

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
6. Oh, I have no doubt of that.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 06:29 PM
Feb 2014

The TPTB want to inject these fools with visions of Dolf Lundgren "coming ta' git their gunz"!

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
8. No.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:24 AM
Feb 2014

a.) he doesn't have enough troops for the job, so he'd have to ramp up
b.) he is currently moving in precisely the opposite direction, on a charm offensive
c.) his public opposes it
d.) He needs Ukraine to be stable and functional, like it or not, and he cannot accomplish that by force

cprise

(8,445 posts)
9. And if Ukraine reaches for NATO membership?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 09:52 AM
Feb 2014

IIRC, NATO is constitutionally an anti-Russian organization.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
10. I'm sure we could find a way to start a war if we want to.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 01:14 PM
Feb 2014

I'm assuming for purposes of this conversation that we aren't that dumb.

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