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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 06:59 AM Feb 2014

Where Have All the Lobbyists Gone?

http://www.thenation.com/article/178460/shadow-lobbying-complex

Where Have All the Lobbyists Gone?

On paper, the influence-peddling business is drying up. But lobbying money is flooding Washington, DC like never before. What’s going on?
Lee Fang
February 19, 2014 | This article appeared in the March 10-17, 2014 edition of The Nation.



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I returned to a computer later that day and pulled up the lobbyist-registration database to run the few names I had managed to write down. In theory, lobbyists are required to register under the Lobbying Disclosure Act (LDA) to give the public some idea about who is attempting to influence the laws and regulations that govern us. To my surprise, however, Wamp and most of the others were nowhere to be found. (Palantir’s corporate counsel, Matt Long, would not comment on what Wamp does for the company.)

Daschle, a “policy adviser” to a range of corporate interests and a close confidant of many top Democrats, has become one of the most famous unregistered lobbyists in the city. In fact, his escapades as a consigliere and go-between for business leaders and politicians, including President Obama, are so well known that among ethics watchdogs, the technicality in the law that allows lobbyists to evade registration has become known as the “Daschle Loophole.”

Officially, Shrinking—Unofficially, Exploding

On paper, the lobbying industry is quickly disappearing. In January, records indicated that for a third straight year, overall spending on lobbying decreased. Lobbyists themselves continue to deregister. In 2013, the number of registered lobbyists dipped to 12,281, the lowest number on file since 2002.

But experts say that lobbying isn’t dying; instead, it’s simply going underground. The problem, says American University professor James Thurber, who has studied congressional lobbying for more than thirty years, is that “most of what is going on in Washington is not covered” by the lobbyist-registration system. Thurber, who is currently advising the American Bar Association’s lobbying-reform task force, adds that his research suggests the true number of working lobbyists is closer to 100,000.

A loophole-ridden law, poor enforcement, the development of increasingly sophisticated strategies that enlist third-party validators and create faux-grassroots campaigns, along with an Obama administration executive order that gave many in the profession a disincentive to register—all of these forces have combined to produce a near-total collapse of the system that was designed to keep tabs on federal lobbying.

While the official figure puts the annual spending on lobbying at $3.2 billion in 2013, Thurber estimates that the industry brings in more than $9 billion a year. Other experts have made similar estimates, but no one is sure how large the industry has become. Lee Drutman, a lobbying expert at the Sunlight Foundation, says that at least twice as much is spent on lobbying as is officially reported.

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Where Have All the Lobbyists Gone? (Original Post) bananas Feb 2014 OP
"... no one is sure how large the industry has become." ReRe Feb 2014 #1
Are shadow lobbyists buying the shadow government or the government we merrily Feb 2014 #2
This is sickening. Hoppy Feb 2014 #3
Palantir's name surfacing in that context was kind of a shock starroute Feb 2014 #4
+1^99 kristopher Feb 2014 #8
You can buy a lot of government for 9 billion zeemike Feb 2014 #5
Poison, pure poison...keeps spreading undercover. K&R Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #6
K&R woo me with science Feb 2014 #7
kick woo me with science Mar 2014 #9

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
1. "... no one is sure how large the industry has become."
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 08:50 AM
Feb 2014

... Who knew? Congress knew, and knows, but they just accidentally on purpose forgot to keep us informed down through the years. And now, lobbyists (The Corporation) own our Congress critters AND us. This is the reason we have a Fourth Estate... to snoop around up there and figure out what our Representatives and Senators aren't telling us. Personally, I want to know WTF is going on that our reps. and sens. aren't telling us about.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. Are shadow lobbyists buying the shadow government or the government we
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 09:32 AM
Feb 2014

elect?

This is getting too complicated for me.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
3. This is sickening.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 09:40 AM
Feb 2014

This bullshit goes on and on... meanwhile, the rest of us are reduced to clicking "Sign my petition" on a website. Do you think anyone in Congress really gives a shit about our "clicks?"

I know, we beat the chained C.P.I. We won a couple of other, also. But try to get 10 minutes with your senator or representative while a lobbyist or shadow-lobbyist is in the reception area.

I am posting this in hope that someone has ideas to make this better.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
4. Palantir's name surfacing in that context was kind of a shock
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 09:41 AM
Feb 2014

They're these guys:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110211/11342913057/wikileaks-wasnt-only-operation-hbgary-federal-palantir-berico-planned-to-defraud.shtml

Feb 11th 2011

By now the exposed plan of HBGary Federal, Palantir and Berico to attack Wikileaks and its supporters through fraud and deception, in order to help Bank of America, has been discussed widely. However, the leaked HBGary Federal emails suggest that this sort of plan involving these three companies had been used elsewhere. Apparently the US Chamber of Commerce had approached the same three firms to plan a remarkably similar attack on groups that oppose the US Chamber of Commerce.

That leaked plan (embedded below) includes a similar plan to create fake documents and give them to these groups to publish, with the intent of "exposing" them later, to raise questions about their credibility.

That giant US companies and lobbyist organizations are interested in underhanded, dirty tricks is no surprise (though, there's no evidence that either BofA or the CoC agreed to these proposals). However, as Glenn Greenwald (a key target in the original proposal for BofA) explains, what's really troubling is the chummy relationship between these organizations and the US government.


http://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Palantir

Palantir Technologies is a major component of the intelligence contracting system, producing cutting-edge software and services for a range of government and private sector clients. The firm was founded in 2004 by a small group including Peter Thiel and Dr. Alex Karp (as well as Joe Lonsdale, Stephen Cohen, and Nathan Gettings) with $30,000,000 from Thiel's investment body The Founders Fund as well as $2,000,000 from In-Q-Tel - the latter being the de facto investment arm of the CIA, having been formed for the purpose of encouraging the development of new technologies and capabilities of potential use to the U.S. intelligence community. Each year, the firm holds a conference on related technologies; the 2011 affair quite tellingly featured former DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff as a speaker despite the company's prior, notorious conduct, described below.

Palantir is an entity of interest in large part by virtue of its involvement with HBGary and Berico under the rubric of Team Themis, assembled for the purpose of providing intelligence capabilities to those firms willing to pay for them. Although plans were drawn up at the request of Bank of America and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce by which to target Wikileaks, left-wing activist groups, and the journalist Glenn Greenwald for various forms of online attacks, the plot was unveiled when an Anonymous team took control of HBGary's servers in early February of 2011 and released over 70,000 e-mails, including some to and from Palantir employees Matthew Steckman and Eli Bingham, revealing details of Palantir's involvement in the plot. At least one contract pursuant to the Team Themis conspiracy is signed by Palantir general counsel Matt Long, and several e-mails refer to aspects of the proposed deal having been approved up the chain of command to Dr. Karp himself. Nonetheless, Palantir has claimed to have had no knowledge of what was being done by two of its employees in concert with two corporate partners on behalf of two major corporate clients.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
5. You can buy a lot of government for 9 billion
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 10:14 AM
Feb 2014

That is 9,000 million and there is fewer than 9,000 elected officials...do the math.
And the 4 estate is owned and controlled by the ones that supply the money, so who is going to tell us?

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