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Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:40 PM Mar 2014

Hobby-Lobby's 'conscience' position doesn't justify dictating to employees what are acceptable

medical/health protocols followed by their employees. Employers cannot dictate personal behavior requirements as a condition of employment.

HOWEVER, if Ayatolla Roberts decides for Hobby Lobby then, the "conscience rule" must also apply to human human beings, not just corporate Roberts-humans. That means it applies to customers of any business who chooses to refuse employees certain services legal and paid for by the employees tax dollars. Thus, any business who denies Affordable Health care coverage for it's employees WILL BE REQUIRED TO POST PROMINENTLY FOR ALL CUSTOMERS TO SEE - that they do not allow their employees full benefits of the Affordable Health Care law.

THIS WAY CUSTOMERS CAN FOLLOW THEIR CONSCIENCES AS THEY SEE FIT, IN DECIDING WHETHER TO PATRONIZE SAID BUSINESSES.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/03/19/hobby-lobby-obamacare-contraception-mandate-column/6630649/



American business needs more conscience, not less, whether from religious motivation like Hobby Lobby or from secular intentions. And that is what American consumers want, too. Fully 80% of Americans would prefer to shop at businesses that embrace a social mission.


... yes, and those people who do not consider a religious bias part of a social mission - when forced on emplyees, should be provided the information so they can follow their own consciences when deciding whether or not to patronize such a business. [font size="3"]I hope the business won't [font size="4"]mind[/font] customers having their [font size="4"]own[/font] convictions about a business having a policy with regard to employees personal behavior. [/font]

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Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
1. I won't step inside a Hobby Lobby any more.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:46 PM
Mar 2014

Almost everything is from China and they mistreat their employees.

unblock

(52,227 posts)
2. i have a great solution to all this: get businesses out of the health insurance game entirely!
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:47 PM
Mar 2014

with medicare-for-all, hobby lobby doesn't have to have a hand in the eeeeevul medical decisions of their employees.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
4. I've only been in a Hobby Lobby a couple of times. I found them somewhat creepy and
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 06:09 PM
Mar 2014

never went back. All their stuff is available from other sources and some of it is pure junk.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
5. The Hobby Lobby case is a covert way to inject rightwing religion into Civil law. Just like AZ tried
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:34 PM
Mar 2014

with its notorious "TURN AWAY THE GAYS" pro-discrimination bill.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
8. and I wouldn't be surprised if Ayatollah Roberts finds for theocracy and against freedom from
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:42 PM
Mar 2014

employers being allowed to stipulate matters of personal behavior as a condition of employment.

that's why It should be made known, if he finds for Hobby-Lobby's 'conscience' position, then a law will be passed requiring such employers to prominently display a sign informing customers of their employment practices. This will enable customers to follow [font size="+1"]their consciences[/font] if they don't agree with said employer's terms and conditions of employment and not patronize those businesses.

Rhiannon12866

(205,349 posts)
6. The more I hear about this business, the worse it gets...
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:14 AM
Mar 2014

They bought the beautiful property where my boarding/high school was, had been a school since 1879, and have yet to do a thing with it. Heartbreaking.

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