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'Boko Haram' doesn't really mean 'Western education is a sin' (Original Post) LiberalElite May 2014 OP
It means Fraud Is Prohibited? Loudly May 2014 #1
only in the islamic context that non-islamic education is fraudulent... mike_c May 2014 #3
Good thing Christian fundamentalists don't pipoman May 2014 #4
That would be falling for the etymological fallacy. Igel May 2014 #5
someone in another thread responded "I know what harem means...." mike_c May 2014 #2

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
3. only in the islamic context that non-islamic education is fraudulent...
Thu May 8, 2014, 10:57 PM
May 2014

...if I understand the author correctly. It's the same refrain we hear from some christian fundamentalists to justify pulling their children from public schools, i.e. the instruction conflicts with their religious biases.

Igel

(35,309 posts)
5. That would be falling for the etymological fallacy.
Fri May 9, 2014, 04:13 PM
May 2014

A word must always mean what it's derivation means.


"Prevent" must, therefore, mean "go before." Which is what it still means in the KJV, which was archaic in 1611.

That's nonsense.

The word is claimed to derive from something like "fraud." Remember, "pacification" is derived from the Latin word for "peace" and should just mean "causing to be at peace."

Context, extension caused it to come to mean "non-Islamic education." Specifically British, but the point that it means *only* British education rings hollow. It's a reaction to non-native, non-Islamic education. It's hardly likely they'd find French education standards any better than British ones.

Left out is that it plays into what was happening in the north. The Hausa have had jihads, and had them fairly recently. Spreading the tribe and their religion in a militant fashion, fairly fundamentalist, and fairly aggressively when they could. They're recent to Nigeria, and their spread was met by the British. British was *the* non-Islamic education they fought against because it was wrong, not just "failing to be culturally sensitive."

In Niger it was French. Fundamentalists didn't like Italian education in Libya.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
2. someone in another thread responded "I know what harem means...."
Thu May 8, 2014, 10:55 PM
May 2014

Clearly, they don't. But ignorance rarely stops people from expressing vociferous opinions, LOL.

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