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Galraedia

(5,025 posts)
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 11:06 AM Aug 2014

Israel Started This War and Killed 1,000+ Based on A Very Big Lie

Over the past several weeks – Israel’s constant bombing of innocent civilians in Gaza, Palestine has become a front page story. And while many people cling to their own biases and personal beliefs relative to whether or not they view Israel’s actions justified … what is concerning is how so few people actually understand what led to Israel turning Gaza into a death zone. Well – the Israeli government lied to start a war.

In June of this year – three Israeli teens went missing. The Israeli government knew they were dead but put a gag order on Israeli news organizations so they were unable to report this. They flooded Palestinians towns with Israeli military(source), arrested hundreds of Palestinians including people let go in prior political agreements (source), and looted their homes of their valuables (source) all under the pretext of looking for the “missing teenagers”. Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu said there was “unequivocal proof” that Hamas was responsible for what he called “kidnappings” (source) and the US media reported it exactly as he said it. If you were an American – you were told by the US media via the Israeli government that Hamas kidnapped three teenagers (source). Netanyahu said he would show the evidence for the world to see (source) … days and weeks went by with no evidence but plenty of military actions against the Palestinian people.

Netanyahu incited violence against Palestinians and said that the Palestinian people will pay for these three kids getting kidnapped (source). And that’s exactly what he got. Over 10 Palestinians were killed by the IDF or by Israeli citizens in the coming days; one of them was burned alive by six Jews (source). One Palestinian American teenager was filmed getting nearly beaten to death by the Israeli Defense Forces for simply not being Jewish (source). There are to this day gangs of Jewish Israelis roaming the streets in Israel and Palestine looking to harm Palestinians just because of their ethnicity (source). The message was – you hurt one of ours and we’re going make you pay the price.

For over a week – the Israeli government bombed Gaza unprovoked. No missiles came from Gaza – the Israeli government said it was “retaliating” for the death of three Israeli teenagers who they said Hamas was responsible for killing. Over a week of bombing Palestinian civilians in Gaza (source). When asked for proof that Hamas was involved – this Israeli colonel said Israel didn’t need proof (source) they were simply going to bomb Palestine into the next century. Operation “Protective Edge” began on July 7th (source) for what Israel called a response to rockets attacking Israel. In reality – Hamas was really just retaliating against Israeli aggression that led to the murder of Palestinian civilians.

Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/26/israel-started-this-war-and-killed-1000-based-on-a-very-big-lie/

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CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
1. I'm rec'ing this not just for this particular issue
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 11:14 AM
Aug 2014

but because I think the MSM and politicians in general are insulting our intelligence again with neocon BS as bad as or worse than that we witnessed in the Bush era.

I thought we'd escaped that era but now it has re-emerged stronger than ever.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
5. Yes it is based a lie.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 01:13 PM
Aug 2014

And there is no need for those who have supported the Israelis to examine that lie, as they are in denial.

The word "Occupation" is a word that must be used to describe what happened in 1948. And since most people who support Israel are in such deep seated denial that the word does not exist for them inside the context of the founding of their nation, I don't know how the situation can be resolved.

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
6. "The war of independence"
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 02:09 PM
Aug 2014

was actually a "War of Independence of Palestinians", they could not just call it that.

Sometimes to get to the root of thee problem is to go to the source and that was the pretext of how that "nation" was birthed.

100% of the Palestinians people reduced to 45% of Palestinian lands, so "victims" of German atrocities could have a homeland of which to carry out their own atrocities on people that had nothing to do with their plight.

It was set up to fail from the start. It was set up to systematically deny Palestinians the right to exist and live peacefully in Palestine, and any push back resulted in confiscation of what was left of Palestine lands.

This is genocide. This is not good. The Zionist bowel movement is not good.

 

RRumpole

(7 posts)
7. This artice is not really factual
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 02:09 PM
Aug 2014

The "sources" do not say what the author represents. The unsourced lines are not supported by facts.
Meanwhile, no one asks why there was no Palestinian State. One was created by the UN in 1947. The Arab nations invaded Israel in May 1948 in order to"push the Jews into the Sea." After the cease fire in 1948 all of the West Bank and Jerusalem had no Jews in it. But no one established an Arab State. In 1955 Jordan annexed the entire West Bank and Jerusalem, taking the land (but not the people therein). After the 1967 war, Israel offered the establishment of an Arab State in 99% of the West Bank. At that time there were no Jews in the West Bank. Israel had only one condition for theis Arab State, a peace agreement. This offer was rejected on September 1, 1967 by the Arab League.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
9. Tons of facts, well-sourced, but obviously not to your personal liking.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 03:11 PM
Aug 2014

Your over-simplified, out-of-context and creative musings about what happened from 1947 to 1967 are NOT what we are discussing in this thread. Obviously every thread on the current Palestinian holocaust cannot address the entire history since 1947. More importantly, your mini-history of that time and place is full of unsourced, misleading, and distorted claims. Historical revisionism at its most blatant. And to no one's surprise, YOUR post contains neither a single "source" or a disclosure as to what YOU represent.

Galraedia

(5,025 posts)
10. Your pro-Israel argument ignores history and facts in order to make Israel out to be the 'victim'
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 04:41 PM
Aug 2014

Do you even know why the Arab nations invaded Israel in 1948? The Israeli argument seems to be that Israel was just an all-innocent non-hostile nation that just happened to have accidentally killed over 20,000 unarmed Palestinian civilians during the 1948 war. What really happened was that the Zionists started destroying Palestinian villages and killing civilians to make way for the nation of Israel. Later on the nation of Palestine was unfairly split, giving 56% to the Zionists despite Jews making up less than 1/3 of the population. This started the war in 1948 which led to other Arab nations getting involved. However, the Zionists were already prepared for this and were well armed and had tons of experience from killing Palestinian civilians.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
8. Of course Hillary Clinton has held her BFF Bibi & Israel as totally blameless.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 02:38 PM
Aug 2014

Read this piece by Philip Weiss, in his excellent blog, Mondoweiss, analyzing her interview in the Atlantic, and pointing out, by the way that her interviewer, Jeffrey Goldberg, is a former Israeli corporal! He left college in the US to move to Israel, where he served in the Israeli Defense Forces as a prison guard during the First Intifada. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Goldberg

Glenn Greenwald called Goldberg, "One of the leading media cheerleaders for the attack on Iraq, he compiled a record of humiliating falsehood-dissemination in the run-up to the war that rivaled Judy Miller’s both in terms of recklessness and destructive impact." http://www.salon.com/2010/06/27/goldberg_7/


http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/dreadful-pictures-children.html/comment-page-1
Headline: "Tough Hillary Clinton says ‘dreadful’ pictures of dead women and children make it hard to get at truth– Hamas is to blame"

Yes, Goldberg gets sick access, and why? Because the former Israeli corporal is the living embodiment of the Israel lobby in American politics: Jewish leaders read him closely, they trust him. And any ambitious Democratic politician, say Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, who wants to kiss the tuchus of the Israel lobby can do so readily by sitting down across from him and performing in such a manner that Goldberg will proclaim “masterful,” as he does of Hillary’s mind. That performance here is pure toughness. Hillary repeatedly takes a position to the right of Obama, i.e., that the Palestinians stage-manage civilian deaths to win the sympathy of an anti-Semitic world. This is the very worst moment, Goldberg gets to be the sensitive interlocutor:




JG: Nevertheless there are hundreds of children—

HRC: Absolutely, and it’s dreadful.

JG: Who do you hold responsible for those deaths? How do you parcel out blame?

HRC: I’m not sure it’s possible to parcel out blame because it’s impossible to know what happens in the fog of war. Some reports say, maybe it wasn’t the exact UN school that was bombed, but it was the annex to the school next door where they were firing the rockets. And I do think oftentimes that the anguish you are privy to because of the coverage, and the women and the children and all the rest of that, makes it very difficult to sort through to get to the truth.


Appalling in its insensitivity. We shouldn’t be moved by the killings of children.



Read the rest of this article - it really rips HRC to well-deserved shreds for her duplicity.

She seems to belong to that group of politicians who are soul-less, devoid of any self-respect, dignity or integrity. When Greenberg says ” Nevertheless there are hundreds of children—”. She replies “Absolutely, and it’s dreadful”. Does anyone believe her ?

I read a quote recently which fits here “False face must hide what the false heart doth know….To show an unfelt sorrow is an office
which the false man does easy”


– William Shakespeare, Macbeth, 1.7.83; 2.3.136-37
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