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NYPD has no Duty to Protect and Serve: (Original Post) formercia Aug 2013 OP
NYPD cops are yellow when it comes to dealing with violent criminals. Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #1
Yay, NYPD! They're the finest! nt MrScorpio Aug 2013 #2
Well spoken guy. blackspade Aug 2013 #3
They ARE there to protect and serve ...corporations and the 1%. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #5
This guy looks like someone I know who's a bass player in a band. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #4
WTF is wrong with the cops in this country? greiner3 Aug 2013 #6
I had a horrible chain of thoughts. Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #7
There shouldn't be a legal obligation to protect people... Taitertots Aug 2013 #8
There is a legal reason why he lost DAngelo136 Aug 2013 #9

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
1. NYPD cops are yellow when it comes to dealing with violent criminals.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 02:01 PM
Aug 2013

It is easier to harass minorities walking on the street.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
3. Well spoken guy.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 02:36 PM
Aug 2013

SO if the cops aren't there to protect and serve, I guess that is no reason to have them at all.
So much for the 'fighting crime' memo.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
7. I had a horrible chain of thoughts.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:03 PM
Aug 2013

1: they exist to solve murders not prevent them.
2: a murder conviction is easier when there is a murdered body
3: several eyewitnesses who happen to be trained police observers is a plus at the trial.
4: subduing a suspect is simpler if the suspect just was in a knock down drag out fight (ie, tired, sore, not likely to run)
5: victim might win fight, making arrest easier
6: victim might commit their own felony which needs to be witnessed

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
8. There shouldn't be a legal obligation to protect people...
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:38 PM
Aug 2013

But they should FIRE any police officers who sit idle while innocent people's lives are at risk. And those officers should be black-listed from ever becoming a police officers ever again.

DAngelo136

(265 posts)
9. There is a legal reason why he lost
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 07:23 PM
Aug 2013

Here are the citations from a couple of cases that clarify why the police are not there to protect YOU; they're there to protect PROPERTY and maintain order. They are not obligated to protect you. Remember that the next time you talk to a libertarian and he talks about "government gun power" and "initiation of force".

Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia


DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeShaney_v._Winnebago_County


Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales

Read these cases and be aware!

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