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CaliforniaPeggy
(149,615 posts)PNW_Dem
(119 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)I wish we'd see more of this from our politicians.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)A few weeks back someone posted a sign from a church that said something like this...
"Jesus had two fathers and he turned out all right"
It's about time Christians started acting like Christians.
SunSeeker
(51,553 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)The person who asked the question had wild eyes. He hardly blinked.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)"KRudd just pulled a Jed Bartlet on that guy"
DreamSmoker
(841 posts)Bump
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)azureblue
(2,146 posts)is when this idiot tries to bend something Jesus said about marriage to fit his bigotry, and stammers, realizing he is making a fool of himself. When results in that frozen look on his face for the rest of the show, when he then realizes that the whole world sees him as a bigot and the camera is still on him.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Welcome to the party. Slow thinkers keep right.
nilram
(2,888 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)So calm and caring, he wasn't loud or in your face he just answered the question from his heart and mind... the mind part is what is missing with the man who asked the question.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)cate94
(2,810 posts)He says "what Paul says.." lol
shenmue
(38,506 posts)It's a reference to one of St. Paul's letters.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)MissMarple
(9,656 posts)According to the Bible he became an apostle after Jesus Christ rose from the dead. That is why he is called the Apostle Paul. Peter was considered by Jesus the "Rock" on which the church was built. At least as I recall from Catechism and Sunday School.
The quote is from Ephesians 5:6-9. Google is your friend.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)I had heard this 25 years ago. Paul had a vision of Jesus in Damascus being ressurected and the Savior.
Jesus and Paul: Figurehead and Founder of Christianity
Posted: 02/ 3/2012 HuffPost, Robert Orlando
................Gerd Ludemann states, "Without Paul there would be no church and no Christianity. He's the most decisive person that shaped Christianity as it developed. Without Paul we would have had reformed Judaism... but no Christianity."
While there was overlap between Paul and Jesus, there were also large divides between Pauline Christianity and Judean Christianity, which only grows -- if you trace Paul's letters in chronological order -- into a full-blown chasm by the end of his life.
................However, the central theme fusing the life of Paul in his letters with Jesus from the Gospels was the coming Kingdom of God; one tradition found in the Synoptic Gospels has -- on the supposed lips of Jesus "in red letters" -- the expectation of a sudden return in his lifetime.
This "visitation" was not the Jewish understanding of the general resurrection. When Paul confronted Jesus in his Damascus vision, he also faced a new idea of resurrection -- but there was no kingdom, no destruction of Rome, no end times. In other words, there were no signs of Jewish Messiah.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-orlando/jesus-and-paul-figurehead_b_1245254.html
Win and awesome.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)the planet is billions of years old and modern humans have been around for maybe a couple hundred thousand. It is patently pathetic that a silly bit of 2,000-year-old leftover mythology from the primitive and isolated desert-dwelling people of ancient Judea is still brought into the mix.
MissMarple
(9,656 posts)It is just a way of trying to connect with the divine. People will continue to do that, some more than others, of course. Then there are the ones who use religion to control others and justify their prejudices and actions. That's different.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I agree with him 100% in my own good, Christian conscience.
I do not understand those Christians who insist on promoting hate. I stipulate and agree that so many do (so I don't need to be reminded of that here), but I simply do not understand how (like this speaker) the very essence of Christianity can be lost to them. The very essence of Christianity is that we love and care for one another.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Next Question?
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)I think he was given some delicious food for thought
and in my opinion seemed receptive.
Very nice post!