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Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:23 AM Sep 2013

The March (1963, restored) -- except they gagged King



Beautifully restored footage from the March 1963. The National Archives released it on Youtube.

So why is King's voice silenced? Is it because the family holds the copyright? That a public and historic moment in American history is no longer accessible to the public domain? This is insulting to the memory of Dr. King. This incredible footage. His the only voice missing.

Why bother even restoring this footage if this is the end result?

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MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. I think the King family does have a tight grip on his work product.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:30 AM
Sep 2013

I can't help but notice how clearly the issues are articulated in the signs.

Signs were way better back in the day--now they're hard to read and just not as "to the point."

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
2. Well they insulted the memory of their father here and dishonored themselves
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:37 AM
Sep 2013

in the process. I am so angry I feel like downloading the damn footage and editing it myself. Copyright be damned.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
7. I had a bad reaction to King being silenced in the clip
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:01 AM
Sep 2013

So beautifully restored. So important historically. And the most important voice raised that day has been silenced. The irony of doing this to the film. Too bad the family and the archives couldn't have come to some agreement.

I rather suspect King himself would have been a bit put off by having been silenced no matter what the reason.

Anyway, I really should try and restore the film.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
9. Did they record direct from the mic he was on that day?
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 01:22 PM
Sep 2013

Most of the audio I've heard has been second hand off the PA.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
14. I googled but can't find any info on this edit job
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 02:26 PM
Sep 2013

It is a mystery to me! I suspect copyright is the only possible explanation. I wonder who has paid for the rights to the audio of Dr. King's speech. Because if they are aggressive enough they can DMCA any Youtube videos they like. Dr. King's words may become increasingly harder to hear in the future.

Almost worse in some ways than a conscious effort to suppress.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
15. It's in the video description...
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 02:47 PM
Sep 2013
*The audio from 23:13 to 29:44 in this film has been redacted due to a copyright restriction by Dr. King's family.*

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. I suspect if enough people make an issue out of it, they'll relent and give it over.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:20 PM
Sep 2013

I personally cannot understand how they are able to "claim" a speech made on public grounds to a national audience before a national monument, but somehow, they were able to do it.

Imagine the Kennedys trying to copyright "Ask not..." (which ironically, Kennedy stole from his school--really), or FDR's family trying to lock up "The only thing we have to fear...."

Some things belong to us all.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
10. Supposedly you can't copyright anything a government employee makes
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 02:03 PM
Sep 2013

in the service of the government. I think this is the law regarding public rights to military footage, presidential speeches, government archives.

But yeah. Imagine the Gettysburg Address being protected by copyright for 75 years after Lincoln's death. 1949? Pathetic.

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