Pic Of The Moment: Sign The Pledge If You Want To Keep Your Old Non-ACA-Compliant Health Care Plan!

[EarlG]

[russspeakeasy]

1. EXCELLENT.

Thanks EarlG.

[Ace Acme]

2. My plan is Get Sick and Die

I was under the impression that to keep my plan I'll have to pay some kind of penalty.

[merrily]

12. I have 3 retirement plans.

1. Die Young.

2. Convert to Catholicism and ask to become a nun.

3. Violate the law in Bermuda.

(Their women's prison has a fantastic ocean view.)

Feel free to plagiarize.

[Ace Acme]

13. I'm too late for #1, and genderly disqualified for #2, but I'll look into #3.

How's the men's prison? Maybe we could get together and rob each other or something.

[TxDemChem]

14. lol my sister lives in Bermuda

Says you have a lovely view from everywhere.

I may have to look at a convent.

[merrily]

31. Dunno about the men's

Was on a bus tour of the island and the guide pointed out the women's prison as we passed.

I've always wanted an expansive ocean view.

But he never mentioned the men's.

Then again, maybe some developer has turned the women's prison into condos by now.

[underpants]

3. Succinct, hilarious, and so very sad

[Thinkingabout]

4. K & R

Exactly my thoughts, those crying about not keeping the policies which the insurance companies determine whenever they please to say you have a pre-existing condition when you want to use the policy and then all the money paid is gone up in smoke.

[oberliner]

5. Presumably most don't have a pre-existing condition

Which is why these plans are appealing to them in the first place.

[ThoughtCriminal]

6. When they get sick

They discover that insurance companies are incredibly creative when it comes to find "Pre-existing conditions".

Got bone cancer? Oh, but we see that you failed to disclose that broken leg when you were 14...

[chowder66]

9. I didn't either until I went to the doctor after lunch

When my doctor was checking me she pushed on my stomach and said do you have any pain? I said... not really just a little gas..I ate before I came here.
She must have noted that because my very first denial of coverage letter had three letters on it. g.a.s

No one is safe.

[oberliner]

19. Wow

That is crazy!

[chowder66]

23. I have a friend who got one

for having migraines. When I got that denial letter I bought some junk insurance not knowing anything about it. I looked into it and people were saying while it wasn't great it helped. It didn't help. Finally I was earning enough money to get on Major Risk Insurance but there were months where I was weighing should I buy groceries or keep my health insurance. Luckily I got help to keep it and now I have tons of options with the exchanges along with better pay. It's been a long road and I'm thrilled that those options are finally here.

[SmittynMo]

7. My guess is,,,,,

Of the 14M people that were to be affected(reported by our trust worthy news sources), I'm betting that 95% of them will go elsewhere. ACA maybe? So in essence, they will get a better deal. Yet we hear nothing about this? Why?

We have to account that the remaining 5% are FAUX news viewers. Therefore the signature of "A completely uninformed citizen" comes into play.

[valerief]

34. Because the media is controlled by asshole billionaires who hate the 99%. nt

[SDjack]

8. One little problem: "I am totally unaware ..." How about something like this in its place:

I know about ACA and reject participation. I also reject all public assistance for which I cannot pay, including hospital care, specialists, drugs, etc. To accept would socialize my bills, and it offends me.

[47of74]

16. I'm down with that

[robbob]

10. I dont understand

Obama is taking a beating for this; just because he said something that turned out to not be true. Doesn't matter how idiotic it would be to keep your old plan, there is going to be political fallout.

What I don't understand; if people are stupid enough to want inferior coverage, why not let them? I'm sure the insurance companies are making a killing on these outdated policies, so they would be happy to continue taking your money. So why not "Grandfather clause" all existing policies. Don't allow the insurance companies to issue any more of these policies, but allow whoever wants to continue.

Why is that a problem? Then Obama can say that he let people keep their existing policy, problem solved. Why is this so hard to do?


<on edit> ...just read on another threat (William Pitt) that they DID Grandfather in all policies from BEFORE the ACA came into being, and then the insurance companies started creating NEW policies that would not meet the standards of the ACA, seemingly KNOWING that these policies would then be cancelled. Why have I not heard any of this on the news, I wonder? (sarcasm)

[gcomeau]

15. Sigh...

"So why not "Grandfather clause" all existing policies. Don't allow the insurance companies to issue any more of these policies, but allow whoever wants to continue. "

They did. (Edit: Just read your edit. Leaving this up anyway since so many seem not to know it)

When the ACA passed policies existing at that time were grandfathered.

The policies being canceled now? Not those policies. They're new policies that were issued after the ACA was passed that the insurance companies knew damn well would have to be cancelled again right away.

OR, they're policies the insurance companies don't actually have to cancel but are anyway because they want to try to push people to higher cost plans and take this one time opportunity to blame it on Obamacare because most people don't understand what the ACA actually does.

OR, they're policies being cancelled because the company decided to cut costs (My company cancelled two very comprehensive PPO plans this year. a bunch of coworkers naturally started bitching about that damn Obamacare costing them their awesome plan. Turns out upon some pointed questioning of the benefits department they were going to be cancelled anyway, ACA or no ACA, because they were costing the company a fortune.


Etc...

[Major Hogwash]

11. A bill with this pledge just passed in the House!!

As the bill states, the pledge will henceforth be known as the "Boner Pledge" . . whenever health care insurance is needed, the insurance companies are guaranteed to pull a boner.

[ffr]

17. Fox viewers are signing at unprecendentedly quick rate

based on what they're being told on television. I would have expected no less from mindless drones.

Me? I'm going with my ACA Platinum 1 plan.

[tblue]

18. This House is a joke.

Boner Pledge? or maybe even Boner Pill? OH MY GOSH! That's hilarious.

[Burf-_-]

20. player haters

Just posted this all over the conservative blogosphere, my inbox is full of 'HATERS' LMAO.

So this is what Buck Nasty's mama feels like..... HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE !

[rhett o rick]

21. Well people have a right to be stupid. It says it right there in the Constitution or

Gettysburg Address. Wait, it was a Bazooka Joe Bubble Gun wrapper. Once all the fuss dies down, these nitwits will quietly switch.

[Vietnameravet]

22. One more part

Add something about."if I get sick hospitals are not obligated to treat my sorry ass for free"

[Curmudgeoness]

24. I would add

"I agree to take responsibility for any and all medical bills that my insurance does not cover, and will not stick the hospital, doctors, or taxpayers with any of the expenses."

[Pterodactyl]

45. Yeah, I'm sick and tired of freeloaders who go the the ER and expect US to foot the bill. No more!

[Curmudgeoness]

46. This isn't exactly what I am saying.

My point is that so many of the Obamacare haters who will not sign up, subsidy or not, and will go without insurance instead, are the same people who believe in personal responsibility. They are the ones who keep on pushing that down our throats---"pull yourself up by your bootstraps, bub. And who cares if you don't have bootstraps, you lazy bum." Well, when these people refuse to have insurance, I want them to be willing to take responsibility for that decision.

You make is sound as if I am against caring for everyone, and that is not the case.

Or maybe you just forgot the "sarcasm" smilie and I didn't catch it.

[Pterodactyl]

47. Absolutely. They should take responsibility &pay for their own insurance or pay for the consequences

[Warren DeMontague]

25. Triumph of the low information voter.

Sad but true.

[Warren DeMontague]

26. I'm still mad that I had to switch from that old 420i television set.

Honestly, nothing beats the warm fuzziness of a CRT tube with a broken V-hold knob.

[ejpoeta]

27. I am in favor of the ACA....

however we do not have access to the exchange as we have access to employer based insurance. Scratch that.... I believe we don't have access to the subsidies. Our insurance is going up $100 a pay period to $400 for 2 people every two weeks. Now, I do not blame the ACA for this increase. The insurance company could have raised the rates regardless. In every job my husband has had the rates have steadily gone up. But that about eats up the raise bob just got. It's like there is no getting ahead. Every time you get a little they take it away from a different direction.

At least the president is TRYING to do something to address the problem. Like it or dislike it... at least he is making an attempt. There has been so much talk for so long without actually making any effort to do anything about it. Sure, there have been people who have tried to institute some change, but the bulk of our representatives have quashed it.

And the people who have bitched and moaned for years about the very things that the ACA attempts to address are the ones complaining about this law. Just boggles my mind.

[Rozlee]

28. I think Rethugs don't realize it's too late to put the genie back in the bottle.

Millions of Americans have already benefited from the ACA; parents who were able to keep adult kids on their policies until they're 26 and people who have been covered by Medicaid since 2010. If Republicans get their wish and roll back the law, it might be a very Pyrrhic victory. Over 70 percent of Americans like several provisions of the ACA, such as coverage for pre-existing conditions and keeping adult children on policies.

[VPStoltz]

29. I realize the whole thing is confusing - for some - like me...

but in a radio piece I heard a few days ago, it was explained that insurance companies had been allowed all along to let policy holders continue their old policies until 2015. The idea was to give them time to find new ones, for the companies to retool the old ones, for the ACA to codify everything. It was the decision of the companies to cancel - it had nothing to do with the ACA - because they wanted the money to pay for the new coverage. I find the President a person of great honor for saying "it's on me" when he in fact knows that he was screwed by the insurance companies - the greedy bastards.

[russspeakeasy]

30. One of my all time favorites. Thanks for posting this.

[mdbl]

32. I vote yes!

Yes to my policy that covers next to nothing!
Yes to cancelling me for getting sick!
Yes to my insurance company spending 26 cents of my insurance dollar on themselves!
Yes to not being able to get insurance because I had an illness before!
Yes to giving congress gold coverage policies for free!
Yes to six insurance company lobbyists for every member of Congress trying to kill the ACA!
Yes to the lobbyist and insurance company spending millions to kill the ACA instead of covering their sick policy holders!
Yes to my healthcare policy being written by the greedy Heritage Foundation because they really care!
Yes to insurers giving U.S. Chamber $86 million used to oppose the ACA instead of covering their sick policy holders!
Yes to my insurance company looking for every excuse and loophole not to cover a legitimate illness

Feel free to add you own!

[tclambert]

33. You just don't understand the free market. Claims cut into profits. Therefore, the best

insurance companies find the most ways to deny claims. Which makes more profit. And since maximizing profit results in the greatest good for everyone, everyone wins. So sayeth Ayn Rand. Hallelujah. Amen.

[underpants]

35. So .............. it's about choice?

[allan01]

36. freedom to be screwed

http://www.slowpokecomics.com/strips/freedomtobescrewed.html

[Pterodactyl]

37. If you like your plan, you should be able to keep it.

[mdbl]

38. What strikes me funny is....

I keep asking people who say they want to keep their current policy why? They either can't answer, or give some lame reason like "I like my Dr" as if the Dr won't take another policy. When you ask them to see their policy, you find they are paying a lot of money for virtually very little coverage. If someone truly has enough money to afford good coverage, they can bite me if they are upset at paying a little more. It's the top 5 pecent in a whine fest, AGAIN, as usual. Isn't the public sick of this crap yet? The media really sux on this issue too.

[BlackOpz]

40. Not even 5% - Only about 3% are adversely impacted

True. The worst part is half the 5% whos rates went up qualify for subsidies so its only about 2.5% to 3% that are negatively impacted to benefit the other 97%. Good deal and waaaay better than the previous system.

[cynzke]

43. That is a really

an important point. Even though 5% percent have been impacted in some way, doesn't mean in a worse way, but that is how its being presented in the media. These people whine about losing their insurance. They didn't. They are being offered enrollment in their insurance companies' new plans or they can shop. No one has lost the ABILITY to get health insurance. When Obama said you could keep your doctor, you can. There are several ways. Of those 5% whose plans were cancelled and replaced by new insurance policies, how many lost access to their doctors and how many of the new plans continued with the same network of doctors? Not everyone lost their doctors. And if some people actually lost their doctors, they can call their doctor and find out what insurance companies their doctor is working with and sign up with that insurance company. Worse comes to worse, pay to see your doctor out of your own pocket. The ability to see your doctor has not been taken away from you but insurance companies have say over whether they will or will not pay for that for you.

[Divine Discontent]

39. lol... good 1 :), question for anyone about 2014 income on the website

what is the amount you have to put in as your expected income for 2014 to get credits if your state isn't offering medicaid expansion?

[cynzke]

41. Some Dumb Ass

on a posting at another site was complaining about having to pay for cancer screenings thanks to ACA. Said those are mostly for older people. What an idiot!

[xloadiex]

42. Meet the 39

Ron Barber D AZ-2
John Barrow D GA-12
Ami Bera D CA-7
Timothy H. Bishop D NY-1
Bruce Braley D IA-1
Julia Brownley D CA-26
Cheri Bustos D IL-17
Jim Costa D CA-16
Peter A. DeFazio D OR-4
Suzan K. DelBene D WA-1
Tammy Duckworth D IL-8
Bill Enyart D IL-12
Elizabeth Esty D CT-5
Bill Foster D IL-11
Pete Gallego D TX-23
John Garamendi D CA-3
Joe Garcia D FL-26
Ron Kind D WI-3
Ann McLane Kuster D NH-2
Dave Loebsack D IA-2
Dan Maffei D NY-24
Sean Patrick Maloney D NY-18
Jim Matheson D UT-4
Mike McIntyre D NC-7
Jerry McNerney D CA-9
Patrick Murphy D FL-18
Rick Nolan D MN-8
Bill Owens D NY-21
Gary Peters D MI-14
Scott Peters D CA-52
Collin C. Peterson D MN-7
Nick J. Rahall II D WV-3
Raul Ruiz D CA-36
Brad Schneider D IL-10
Kurt Schrader D OR-5
Carol Shea-Porter D NH-1
Kyrsten Sinema D AZ-9
Filemon Vela D TX-34
Tim Walz D MN-1

[Pterodactyl]

44. I would never vote for any of those representatives.

And I can't help but wonder if there is another reason behind their opposition to America's first African-American president.

[Ian_rd]

48. This ACA business is a perfect example of politicized reality

Serve a man a plate of food next to a plate of feces. Tell him that the food is from Obama. The man will choose to eat the shit instead, with fierce pride, and declare it delicious.

[mdbl]

49. Correction: Serve a teabagger or a repuglican a plate of....

There are still men and women with common sense. We can't lump them all in together. I got your point though.