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Is Walmart's request of associates to help provide Thanksgiving dinner for co-workers proof of low wages?
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geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Fuckers.
Gary 50
(381 posts)Walmart has an ad campaign on tv where shiny happy people are saying what a great place Walmart is to work. Bonuses, raises, promotions, matched funds on charitable giving. Who you gonna believe your eyes and common sense or a multimillion dollar propaganda scheme?
Initech
(100,054 posts)It's all just a PR campaign. The Waltons could buy like 50 developing nations and turn them into factories. This is fucking obscene. How much profit is too much?
Nay
(12,051 posts)that it's some sort of wonderful do-gooderism on their part.
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mc51tc
(219 posts)$15.00 is a good start.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)$22.50. Then tie min wage increases to inflation or the % increase Congress gets yearly, whichever is greater.
The 1% will STILL get ALL of that money back through our spending.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Mika
(17,751 posts)I can't believe the amount of the low-ball trolling that goes on here.
mc51tc
(219 posts)$10.00 is way better than $7.25, which most places are still paying now. Do you really think they will pass $15.00 or $22.00 now. Get real!
SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)OUR Walmart is the Walmart employee group that is organizing many of the protests. They may not get $13, but you have to demand $13 if you want any chance of getting $10. It is basic negotiation strategy.
Still, $13 is low. You need $15/hr to live like a human being. And I'm not talking luxury, just basics.
Mika
(17,751 posts)I don't care who it is.
SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)$10 an hour is better than what I've made at most jobs. Not that I don't want $15/hr, but I'd settle for the $10 if it's more achievable.
airplaneman
(1,239 posts)California's minimum wage goes up to $10.00 by 2016. Including inflation this will still be grossly inadequate.
-Airplane
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)airplaneman
(1,239 posts)Should be no less than $15/hr. Actually should be $22./hr!
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Since the beginning of the minimum wage corporate America has gotten very good at "adjusting" for minimum wage hikes.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774473.html
Please refer to the link, throughout the history of the minimum wage, the actual buying power of those stuck at the minimum wage level has never really increased. Dollar amount isn't as important as dollar value. Move it up to $10/hour, corporate America will adjust. Raise it to $22/hour, corporate America will adjust it again to ensure that those on the minimum wage never really gain any real increase in buying power.
What we really need is to tie corporate profits to employee income. Starting at 15% Corporations need to compensate all employees, equally, 15% of their net. For example, Walmart netted $469 billion last year. Take 15% of that amount, or $70.35 Billion, and equally distribute it to all estimated $2 million employees. That's an additional, lump sum profit bonus to all employees of $35,175/ year. Then, if Walmart (and the rest of corporations) attempt to "adjust" they will have to do so by adjusting their own profit margins... something they won't do.
The benefit of this method, vs the minimum wage has an additional advantage. Because profit margins are the basis of the pay out, it will actually benefit corporations to increase their employee base rather than cutting them to protect their precious profit margins.
Heck, we might even be able to sell this to the cons, since this also vests the employee's interest in working to ensure the companies are successful... One of those few cases where it coule really be a win/win for all of us.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)...and they want associates to donate canned goods to other associates.
lark
(23,078 posts)We could run pictures of this for free to offset their lying ads about all the great (cough, cough) things Wally world is doing for their ee's.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)"...the donations are indicative of a supportive employee culture -- not proof of low wages."
It seems to me the donations are indicative of employees who are not paid a living wage by the country's largest employer. A company whose six heirs own assets equal to 40% of the country.
Something is very wrong in River City.
Ahpook
(2,749 posts)They don't even try to bullshit well anymore.
That response is ludicrous.
tavernier
(12,374 posts)People who work together are supportive of each other, especially when they see families struggling with hunger.
I swear, it's only a matter of time before the guillotine reappears.
valerief
(53,235 posts)With a basement minimum, of course, they can't go below.
The more the corporation makes in one year, the more they pay their employees next year.
glowing
(12,233 posts)Like a small mom and pop store, franchised hotel, even fast food is franchised (so the owner wouldn't have to pay based on what makes its way to corporate coffers for the "pleasure" of owning the McDonald name on their store front), a Drs office, small law firm, small town govt office...
Nope, the minimum wage should be set at a living wage for the most "minimum" of jobs; and jobs that require more skill and training, would automatically see an increase in wages over a 6 - 24 mo period. And with more money, more people could actually participate in the real economy, they could chose better where they spend their money (like picking nutritious, organic foods, choosing "green companies" or "fair trade" product.
The reality is, not only should wages increase, but the amt of time one is considered "full time" should decrease as well. We have more productivity every year with the advancement of technology. There is no reason anyone is having to work 40hrs for a full time job! Making a work week 30hrs would increase everyone's quality of life.
I don't understand why the extremely wealthy people should be able to take off for the whim of it, jet set off to some exotic island for a long weekend, live in their summer home at the Hampton's for a couple of months... Most people wouldn't choose all that fancy stuff, but families would definitely benefit from having more time to spend with one another. It would also add demand for new hires. Plus the benefit of having paid vacation/ sick time/ and maternity/ paternity leave as a human condition of living. We need to be able to live while we are living; not only hope to middle thru and hope the kids figure it out better.
Of course, in a country as "wealthy" as ours, we should have a progressive taxation policy and that the taxes go back into making society better for all... Like having free education at public institutions for what one is best suited or interested in doing for one's lifetime. And health care should be a right; not this paid insurance/ middle man trap that costs us more money and doesn't deliver the best that medicine and Drs and over all health care should. Plus we should be investing in the small, sustainable future farmers; not insulating Monsanto super farms with their Franken foods and the Farm Bill that wealthy use to subsidize their bottom line even more (just look at how many politicians get a Farm Subsidy for NOT producing food or having any intention of ever farming.
Of course, to many, I'm preaching to the choir. At the end of the day we need civil servants who are working for the benefit of The People and the country; not theirselves... Money and power are very alluring and corrupting; the courts are even becoming extremely influenced by The PTB.
valerief
(53,235 posts)10 billion a quarter, their employees should enjoy the perk of a highly increased minimum wage from the basement minimum.
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)Whatever happened to the tradition of giving employees a turkey at Thanksgiving?
fasttense
(17,301 posts)then those employees would NOT buy turkeys from Wal-Mart. It's all about profits.
Capitalism is designed to pit employers against their own employees by paying lower and lower wages. That's why all the off shoring of jobs, the illegal immigrants and the HB-1 visa workers. It's all about paying less and less to the people who do the real work in corporations. Without our labor none of these corporations could exist.
Capitalism is such a crappy economic system humanity should have evolved away from it centuries ago.
Initech
(100,054 posts)What do the Waltons plan to do with all that money? Colonize Mars? Fuck them!
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)probably a dented can.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)to employees.
Well, actually I didn't hear that, but think it would make a good rumor.
Unbelievable that people so stupid as to think this is good PR are actually so rich.
"If you're so rich, why aren't you smart?"
SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)All they need at this point is to disable their conscience so they can continue making billions off the backs of their minimum wage workers, while we subsidize their scheme by keeping their employees alive with Medicaid and food stamps. And they certainly seem to have found the OFF switch for their conscience.
CTyankee
(63,899 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)me disabling my unicorn.
I don't have one.
blue14u
(575 posts)I no longer shop there.. I will not support a corporation (where its possible),
that takes from their workers and recommends they go get food stamps and
other gov assistance!!
Their rats and one day I hope to live long enough to see them pay for their greed!!
Flatpicker
(894 posts)By not shopping there, you really aren't hurting the Walmart leadership.
All you are doing is giving them reason to limit hours and cut back on employees. The only way to make this a real message is to have enough volume of lost sales. Problem is, too many people are stuck in the Walmart system now.
That said, I don't shop there either, so I realize I'm not doing anything to make a better standard of living for the employees.
glowing
(12,233 posts)competition. Now, they are the only store, and without any competition, they have very little incentive to discount prices or offer any quality items... Walmart is not the cheapest place to shop. I have found much better deals on Main St or in better Dept stores than I have in Walmart.
When u walk in the store, there is an energy of stress, desperation, unhappy faces, and 1 or 2 registers open, even though there are 24 and long lines to check out. I haven't been in one in months. Even Target (basically another box store) feels better than shopping in a Walmart. And as of late, their working class, working poor shoppers are going to the Dollar stores for cheaper items... So what if the tube of toothpaste has Spanish ingredients listed, $1.00 is cheaper than $2.99 in the Walmart. They are literally boxing their own store out of America with their quarterly projected profit thinking. The only places they are still needed is in the areas that they squashed all their competition; and basically ruined the local economy.
Flatpicker
(894 posts)In the wrong, if I said that if you are hungry or in need of medical supplies or other life basics, you should steal from Walmart.
Stealing is wrong, unless you do it big, then it's business.
blue14u
(575 posts)alone don't really hurt them...
I do believe in principal though, and they will not change until made
to do so by us as a group, or the wage increase is made mandatory..
You and I not shopping there is not what makes them pay low
wages or give employees fewer hours.. Their greed does that imo...
I can make a stand though
and support the employees by pointing out the greed of Walmart
every chance I get.
I smile as I say this... have you ever heard that sometimes it only
takes one person, even if standing alone to change the world?..
I like to think I am in some way standing up for them..
Half full, half empty... It's all in how we look at it!
JimboBillyBubbaBob
(1,389 posts)This is purely disgusting.
Botany
(70,476 posts)You would think that Walmart could put together a Thanksgiving and an Xmas
basket for their employees .... they do sell groceries and they could write it off
taxes too.
Paper Roses
(7,473 posts)Never, ever will I go to Walmart again.
To ask us to pay for their employees is beyond the pale
.
Walmart wants out money again and again, whether it be for their products or---to support their underpaid employees> Talk about gall.
This effort by Walmart is too awful to be forgiven.
They have driven so many of our merchants out of business, do not pay their employees fairly and now want this?
Give me a break.
rocktivity
(44,573 posts)So the answer was to put it in EMPLOYEE section? Not even the executive washroom?
This explains all the commercials I saw during yesterday's football game seeing about their job advancement opportunities
rocktivity
emmadoggy
(2,142 posts)jjewell
(618 posts)will end up selling us the guillotines we decapitate them with...
Seasons Greetings...
devils chaplain
(602 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)*sarcasmX10*
Cha
(297,029 posts)Divine Discontent
(21,056 posts)I never understood how the corporations got away with slaughtering the living wage, and people didn't rebel in the 80's... oh that's right, it was work for less or possibly see your family starve. grrrrrr....
You would think the mgr of the store would be ashamed of this visual at their store (not the compassion, but the fact that it EXISTS)
http://www.zazzle.com/shutdown_the_gop_by_voting_in_2014_government-128195183613839642?rf=238107662556833486
Gumboot
(531 posts)Granted, they probably have several 'safe' hiding places scattered around the world, but here's what should haunt their sleep from now on.
Better start watching your backs, robber barons, Kochs, banksters, and media muppets... the angry crowd is growing bigger every day.
"You poor take courage, you rich take care..." ~ Billy Bragg.
CubicleGuy
(323 posts)I mean, letting the more well-off employees take care of feeding the others.
Would it really kill this store's bottom line for one month if they just gave them free Thanksgiving food from the grocery aisles?
rpannier
(24,329 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)That's the theory anyway. Otherwise employees will grow lazy and complacent. I think they base that theory on self-scrutiny.
Boycott those sunzabitches!
riverbendviewgal
(4,252 posts)K& r
Blue Owl
(50,325 posts)n/t