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EarlG

(21,939 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 12:18 PM Nov 2013

Pic Of The Moment: Here's How WalMart Are Thanking Their Employees This Year



Is Walmart's request of associates to help provide Thanksgiving dinner for co-workers proof of low wages?




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Pic Of The Moment: Here's How WalMart Are Thanking Their Employees This Year (Original Post) EarlG Nov 2013 OP
Disgusting. geardaddy Nov 2013 #1
Walmarts response... Gary 50 Nov 2013 #2
Those ads make me want to throw up! Initech Nov 2013 #20
It's quite telling to me that they have no shame in doing this and are pretending Nay Nov 2013 #3
TELL THE SENATE: WE WANT A $10 MINIMUM WAGE mc51tc Nov 2013 #4
Too low. daleanime Nov 2013 #6
$15 now with 6 month increases of $.75 until we hit obxhead Nov 2013 #40
I like the way you think daleanime Nov 2013 #53
$10 is a joke. Mika Nov 2013 #7
Be careful who you call a troll! Read the rules! mc51tc Nov 2013 #9
I agree, $10 is a vast improvement over $7, but OUR Walmart is campaigning for $25K/yr ($13/hour). SunSeeker Nov 2013 #18
So, why do you think that there's so much low-balling on the min wage here? Mika Nov 2013 #26
Dunno. We've been pounded so long that a lot of us think $10 is good? It is, compared to $7. nt SunSeeker Nov 2013 #27
To be fair Tien1985 Nov 2013 #51
I'm convinced $15.00 should be the minimum. airplaneman Nov 2013 #8
Just read that Seattle is pushing for 15.00 minimum. n/t dixiegrrrrl Nov 2013 #10
Great and Washington DC look like they are trying to do better to. n/t. airplaneman Nov 2013 #12
Huh??? ReRe Nov 2013 #19
Forget the minimum wage hike, Corporations have gotten too good at working around it. Amimnoch Nov 2013 #48
Almost half a trillion made last year... KansDem Nov 2013 #5
Wish they old "truth in advsertising" laws were back. lark Nov 2013 #11
A Walmart spokesperson responded to this by saying AndyA Nov 2013 #13
What's scary is Ahpook Nov 2013 #35
He's absolutely right tavernier Nov 2013 #42
What if a corporation's minimum wage was tied to its profit? valerief Nov 2013 #14
No, they would find a way to rig that and most people still work for smaller employers... glowing Nov 2013 #31
You don't get my point. Your minimum wage would be my basement wage. If a corporation made, say, valerief Nov 2013 #47
I'm Speechless. Ganja Ninja Nov 2013 #15
I'm appalled. Solly Mack Nov 2013 #16
What is Walmart Corporate going to put in those bins? Why are only $7/hr workers contributing?! SunSeeker Nov 2013 #17
If Wal-Mart gave all their employees a turkey for Thanksgiving fasttense Nov 2013 #57
How much profit is too much??? Initech Nov 2013 #21
I suppose the Walton family will kick in a can of beans LiberalEsto Nov 2013 #22
Wow abelenkpe Nov 2013 #23
I heard that they sneak the canned goods back out onto the shelves rather than giving them Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #24
They didn't create their wealth, they inherited it. No smarts needed. SunSeeker Nov 2013 #28
Yup. It's called the "lucky sperm club." CTyankee Nov 2013 #32
The Waltons disabling their collective conscienc is sorta like Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #39
Greed..plain and simple!!! blue14u Nov 2013 #25
There's the rub Flatpicker Nov 2013 #30
In some areas of the country, there is no choice. They long ago shuttered main st and any other glowing Nov 2013 #33
But I would be Flatpicker Nov 2013 #37
I see your point as you and I blue14u Nov 2013 #50
This is the exact reason I have not shopped there in the last seven years. JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #29
But on the TV machine they just had an ad about how happy and feeling good their employees are Botany Nov 2013 #34
This is disgusting. Do they have no shame? Paper Roses Nov 2013 #36
They couldn't put it where the customers could see it, of course rocktivity Nov 2013 #38
I...I...I have no words. emmadoggy Nov 2013 #41
WalMart and Corporate America... jjewell Nov 2013 #43
This is truly one of the saddest things I've ever seen. n/t devils chaplain Nov 2013 #44
But a higher MW will put TEEN-AGERS out of work!! WinkyDink Nov 2013 #45
Unreal, EarlG! Nervy Sociopaths. Cha Nov 2013 #46
oh wally, you guys know how to love those employees! haha Divine Discontent Nov 2013 #49
Does anyone know where the Waltons live? Gumboot Nov 2013 #52
I guess they believe in socialism after all CubicleGuy Nov 2013 #54
I thought your pic would be of them waiting on crass people who insist on shopping on T-Giving nt rpannier Nov 2013 #55
They have to keep those employees hungry. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #56
sad riverbendviewgal Nov 2013 #58
Gouge forth and suffer Blue Owl Nov 2013 #59

Gary 50

(381 posts)
2. Walmarts response...
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:00 PM
Nov 2013

Walmart has an ad campaign on tv where shiny happy people are saying what a great place Walmart is to work. Bonuses, raises, promotions, matched funds on charitable giving. Who you gonna believe your eyes and common sense or a multimillion dollar propaganda scheme?

Initech

(100,054 posts)
20. Those ads make me want to throw up!
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:33 PM
Nov 2013

It's all just a PR campaign. The Waltons could buy like 50 developing nations and turn them into factories. This is fucking obscene. How much profit is too much?

Nay

(12,051 posts)
3. It's quite telling to me that they have no shame in doing this and are pretending
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:05 PM
Nov 2013

that it's some sort of wonderful do-gooderism on their part.

: :

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
40. $15 now with 6 month increases of $.75 until we hit
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 06:55 PM
Nov 2013

$22.50. Then tie min wage increases to inflation or the % increase Congress gets yearly, whichever is greater.

The 1% will STILL get ALL of that money back through our spending.

mc51tc

(219 posts)
9. Be careful who you call a troll! Read the rules!
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:41 PM
Nov 2013

$10.00 is way better than $7.25, which most places are still paying now. Do you really think they will pass $15.00 or $22.00 now. Get real!

SunSeeker

(51,545 posts)
18. I agree, $10 is a vast improvement over $7, but OUR Walmart is campaigning for $25K/yr ($13/hour).
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:19 PM
Nov 2013
http://forrespect.org/our-rights/employee-rights/

OUR Walmart is the Walmart employee group that is organizing many of the protests. They may not get $13, but you have to demand $13 if you want any chance of getting $10. It is basic negotiation strategy.

Still, $13 is low. You need $15/hr to live like a human being. And I'm not talking luxury, just basics.
 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
26. So, why do you think that there's so much low-balling on the min wage here?
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 03:38 PM
Nov 2013

I don't care who it is.

Tien1985

(920 posts)
51. To be fair
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 11:00 PM
Nov 2013

$10 an hour is better than what I've made at most jobs. Not that I don't want $15/hr, but I'd settle for the $10 if it's more achievable.

airplaneman

(1,239 posts)
8. I'm convinced $15.00 should be the minimum.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:33 PM
Nov 2013

California's minimum wage goes up to $10.00 by 2016. Including inflation this will still be grossly inadequate.
-Airplane

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
48. Forget the minimum wage hike, Corporations have gotten too good at working around it.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:34 PM
Nov 2013

Since the beginning of the minimum wage corporate America has gotten very good at "adjusting" for minimum wage hikes.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774473.html

Please refer to the link, throughout the history of the minimum wage, the actual buying power of those stuck at the minimum wage level has never really increased. Dollar amount isn't as important as dollar value. Move it up to $10/hour, corporate America will adjust. Raise it to $22/hour, corporate America will adjust it again to ensure that those on the minimum wage never really gain any real increase in buying power.

What we really need is to tie corporate profits to employee income. Starting at 15% Corporations need to compensate all employees, equally, 15% of their net. For example, Walmart netted $469 billion last year. Take 15% of that amount, or $70.35 Billion, and equally distribute it to all estimated $2 million employees. That's an additional, lump sum profit bonus to all employees of $35,175/ year. Then, if Walmart (and the rest of corporations) attempt to "adjust" they will have to do so by adjusting their own profit margins... something they won't do.

The benefit of this method, vs the minimum wage has an additional advantage. Because profit margins are the basis of the pay out, it will actually benefit corporations to increase their employee base rather than cutting them to protect their precious profit margins.

Heck, we might even be able to sell this to the cons, since this also vests the employee's interest in working to ensure the companies are successful... One of those few cases where it coule really be a win/win for all of us.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
5. Almost half a trillion made last year...
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:11 PM
Nov 2013

...and they want associates to donate canned goods to other associates.

lark

(23,078 posts)
11. Wish they old "truth in advsertising" laws were back.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:52 PM
Nov 2013

We could run pictures of this for free to offset their lying ads about all the great (cough, cough) things Wally world is doing for their ee's.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
13. A Walmart spokesperson responded to this by saying
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:56 PM
Nov 2013
"...the donations are indicative of a supportive employee culture -- not proof of low wages."


It seems to me the donations are indicative of employees who are not paid a living wage by the country's largest employer. A company whose six heirs own assets equal to 40% of the country.

Something is very wrong in River City.

tavernier

(12,374 posts)
42. He's absolutely right
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 07:31 PM
Nov 2013

People who work together are supportive of each other, especially when they see families struggling with hunger.

I swear, it's only a matter of time before the guillotine reappears.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
14. What if a corporation's minimum wage was tied to its profit?
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:02 PM
Nov 2013

With a basement minimum, of course, they can't go below.

The more the corporation makes in one year, the more they pay their employees next year.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
31. No, they would find a way to rig that and most people still work for smaller employers...
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 04:45 PM
Nov 2013

Like a small mom and pop store, franchised hotel, even fast food is franchised (so the owner wouldn't have to pay based on what makes its way to corporate coffers for the "pleasure" of owning the McDonald name on their store front), a Drs office, small law firm, small town govt office...

Nope, the minimum wage should be set at a living wage for the most "minimum" of jobs; and jobs that require more skill and training, would automatically see an increase in wages over a 6 - 24 mo period. And with more money, more people could actually participate in the real economy, they could chose better where they spend their money (like picking nutritious, organic foods, choosing "green companies" or "fair trade" product.

The reality is, not only should wages increase, but the amt of time one is considered "full time" should decrease as well. We have more productivity every year with the advancement of technology. There is no reason anyone is having to work 40hrs for a full time job! Making a work week 30hrs would increase everyone's quality of life.

I don't understand why the extremely wealthy people should be able to take off for the whim of it, jet set off to some exotic island for a long weekend, live in their summer home at the Hampton's for a couple of months... Most people wouldn't choose all that fancy stuff, but families would definitely benefit from having more time to spend with one another. It would also add demand for new hires. Plus the benefit of having paid vacation/ sick time/ and maternity/ paternity leave as a human condition of living. We need to be able to live while we are living; not only hope to middle thru and hope the kids figure it out better.

Of course, in a country as "wealthy" as ours, we should have a progressive taxation policy and that the taxes go back into making society better for all... Like having free education at public institutions for what one is best suited or interested in doing for one's lifetime. And health care should be a right; not this paid insurance/ middle man trap that costs us more money and doesn't deliver the best that medicine and Drs and over all health care should. Plus we should be investing in the small, sustainable future farmers; not insulating Monsanto super farms with their Franken foods and the Farm Bill that wealthy use to subsidize their bottom line even more (just look at how many politicians get a Farm Subsidy for NOT producing food or having any intention of ever farming.

Of course, to many, I'm preaching to the choir. At the end of the day we need civil servants who are working for the benefit of The People and the country; not theirselves... Money and power are very alluring and corrupting; the courts are even becoming extremely influenced by The PTB.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
47. You don't get my point. Your minimum wage would be my basement wage. If a corporation made, say,
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:11 PM
Nov 2013

10 billion a quarter, their employees should enjoy the perk of a highly increased minimum wage from the basement minimum.

SunSeeker

(51,545 posts)
17. What is Walmart Corporate going to put in those bins? Why are only $7/hr workers contributing?!
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:14 PM
Nov 2013

Whatever happened to the tradition of giving employees a turkey at Thanksgiving?

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
57. If Wal-Mart gave all their employees a turkey for Thanksgiving
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 08:03 AM
Nov 2013

then those employees would NOT buy turkeys from Wal-Mart. It's all about profits.

Capitalism is designed to pit employers against their own employees by paying lower and lower wages. That's why all the off shoring of jobs, the illegal immigrants and the HB-1 visa workers. It's all about paying less and less to the people who do the real work in corporations. Without our labor none of these corporations could exist.

Capitalism is such a crappy economic system humanity should have evolved away from it centuries ago.

Initech

(100,054 posts)
21. How much profit is too much???
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:34 PM
Nov 2013

What do the Waltons plan to do with all that money? Colonize Mars? Fuck them!

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
24. I heard that they sneak the canned goods back out onto the shelves rather than giving them
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:51 PM
Nov 2013

to employees.

Well, actually I didn't hear that, but think it would make a good rumor.

Unbelievable that people so stupid as to think this is good PR are actually so rich.

"If you're so rich, why aren't you smart?"

SunSeeker

(51,545 posts)
28. They didn't create their wealth, they inherited it. No smarts needed.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 03:50 PM
Nov 2013

All they need at this point is to disable their conscience so they can continue making billions off the backs of their minimum wage workers, while we subsidize their scheme by keeping their employees alive with Medicaid and food stamps. And they certainly seem to have found the OFF switch for their conscience.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
39. The Waltons disabling their collective conscienc is sorta like
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 06:44 PM
Nov 2013

me disabling my unicorn.

I don't have one.

blue14u

(575 posts)
25. Greed..plain and simple!!!
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:59 PM
Nov 2013


I no longer shop there.. I will not support a corporation (where its possible),

that takes from their workers and recommends they go get food stamps and

other gov assistance!!

Their rats and one day I hope to live long enough to see them pay for their greed!!

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
30. There's the rub
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 04:36 PM
Nov 2013

By not shopping there, you really aren't hurting the Walmart leadership.

All you are doing is giving them reason to limit hours and cut back on employees. The only way to make this a real message is to have enough volume of lost sales. Problem is, too many people are stuck in the Walmart system now.

That said, I don't shop there either, so I realize I'm not doing anything to make a better standard of living for the employees.


 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
33. In some areas of the country, there is no choice. They long ago shuttered main st and any other
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 04:54 PM
Nov 2013

competition. Now, they are the only store, and without any competition, they have very little incentive to discount prices or offer any quality items... Walmart is not the cheapest place to shop. I have found much better deals on Main St or in better Dept stores than I have in Walmart.

When u walk in the store, there is an energy of stress, desperation, unhappy faces, and 1 or 2 registers open, even though there are 24 and long lines to check out. I haven't been in one in months. Even Target (basically another box store) feels better than shopping in a Walmart. And as of late, their working class, working poor shoppers are going to the Dollar stores for cheaper items... So what if the tube of toothpaste has Spanish ingredients listed, $1.00 is cheaper than $2.99 in the Walmart. They are literally boxing their own store out of America with their quarterly projected profit thinking. The only places they are still needed is in the areas that they squashed all their competition; and basically ruined the local economy.

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
37. But I would be
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:37 PM
Nov 2013

In the wrong, if I said that if you are hungry or in need of medical supplies or other life basics, you should steal from Walmart.

Stealing is wrong, unless you do it big, then it's business.

blue14u

(575 posts)
50. I see your point as you and I
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:30 PM
Nov 2013


alone don't really hurt them...

I do believe in principal though, and they will not change until made

to do so by us as a group, or the wage increase is made mandatory..

You and I not shopping there is not what makes them pay low

wages or give employees fewer hours.. Their greed does that imo...

I can make a stand though

and support the employees by pointing out the greed of Walmart

every chance I get.

I smile as I say this... have you ever heard that sometimes it only

takes one person, even if standing alone to change the world?..

I like to think I am in some way standing up for them..

Half full, half empty... It's all in how we look at it!

Botany

(70,476 posts)
34. But on the TV machine they just had an ad about how happy and feeling good their employees are
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 04:57 PM
Nov 2013

You would think that Walmart could put together a Thanksgiving and an Xmas
basket for their employees .... they do sell groceries and they could write it off
taxes too.

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
36. This is disgusting. Do they have no shame?
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:27 PM
Nov 2013

Never, ever will I go to Walmart again.
To ask us to pay for their employees is beyond the pale
.
Walmart wants out money again and again, whether it be for their products or---to support their underpaid employees> Talk about gall.

This effort by Walmart is too awful to be forgiven.
They have driven so many of our merchants out of business, do not pay their employees fairly and now want this?
Give me a break.

rocktivity

(44,573 posts)
38. They couldn't put it where the customers could see it, of course
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 06:33 PM
Nov 2013

So the answer was to put it in EMPLOYEE section? Not even the executive washroom?

This explains all the commercials I saw during yesterday's football game seeing about their job advancement opportunities


rocktivity

jjewell

(618 posts)
43. WalMart and Corporate America...
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 07:44 PM
Nov 2013

will end up selling us the guillotines we decapitate them with...

Seasons Greetings...

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
49. oh wally, you guys know how to love those employees! haha
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:05 PM
Nov 2013

I never understood how the corporations got away with slaughtering the living wage, and people didn't rebel in the 80's... oh that's right, it was work for less or possibly see your family starve. grrrrrr....

You would think the mgr of the store would be ashamed of this visual at their store (not the compassion, but the fact that it EXISTS)


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Gumboot

(531 posts)
52. Does anyone know where the Waltons live?
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 11:52 PM
Nov 2013

Granted, they probably have several 'safe' hiding places scattered around the world, but here's what should haunt their sleep from now on.

Better start watching your backs, robber barons, Kochs, banksters, and media muppets... the angry crowd is growing bigger every day.


"You poor take courage, you rich take care..." ~ Billy Bragg.





CubicleGuy

(323 posts)
54. I guess they believe in socialism after all
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:26 AM
Nov 2013

I mean, letting the more well-off employees take care of feeding the others.

Would it really kill this store's bottom line for one month if they just gave them free Thanksgiving food from the grocery aisles?

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
56. They have to keep those employees hungry.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 08:01 AM
Nov 2013

That's the theory anyway. Otherwise employees will grow lazy and complacent. I think they base that theory on self-scrutiny.

Boycott those sunzabitches!

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