ABC News: West Coast evacuation due to Fukushima radiation possible

[Bennyboy]

[hobbit709]

1. RIIGHT!!

[99th_Monkey]

2. It's beyond comprehension that TEPCO is STILL "in charge" of this mess?!?!?!

The Japan gov't and the UN should have been put in charge of this LO-O-ONG ago.

[Vincardog]

9. Like the US govt. took over from BP in the gulf?

[blkmusclmachine]

15. Pretty much. Let the criminals cover the evidence scene. Collusion?

[Vincardog]

18. Is it collusion when a slave does as it's master says?

[arcane1]

3. Kicking for later viewing.

And hopefully it's just media scaredy-stuff

[dixiegrrrrl]

11. Looks to be somewhat valid scary stuff.

I just did a story search online..
The key phrase is " COULD be" need for evacuation "if" there is a screw up or bad eathquake that causes #4 building to collapse or causes
fuel rods to blow.
All of which is actually a pretty good chance.

When you factor in the enornmity of the problem with fuel rod removal, the long long record of TEPCO ineptitude,
along with Japan Gov. ass covering, I do not feel at all optimistic.

However, the news report seems to come from a collection of stories about the problem.
I found the same thing here:
http://www.skyvalleychronicle.com/BREAKING-NEWS/THE-GREATEST-NEAR-TERM-THREAT-TO-HUMANITY-Experts-worried-about-cleanup-operation-at-crippled-Japanese-nuclear-plant-1535765

[DeSwiss]

4. K&R

- See also: Oregon Official: Reports coming in of seafood with radioactive contamination

[Bennyboy]

5. Some thing have changed since this report....

yes, in a few days things have changed (Obviously they took a lot of time to put this together)

TEPCO and the Japanese gov't finally accepted help and they will be there soon (This month sometime).. but until they have done a lot of fuel rod removal (Which they started on Monday)....

I keep this thread up to date here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023909069 on everything FUKU.

BTW< I think this is a bit alarmist, but then again I don't know. Who does? What if things go wrong there, what is the actuality of that? NOBODY KNOWS the answer. It could or could not destroy whatever.....

[jtuck004]

6. What I find really interesting is there is so little interest in this. These aren't kooks telling us

the sky is falling, they are reasonable people pointing out that we are leaving a problem that could potentially kill millions of people in the hands of a business that doesn't have the capability, and would very likely allow a disaster to happen just to put off their inevitable dissolution. And that disaster is just the next major earthquake or storm away, or just a mishandling of the material that is crumpled in the bottom of those reactors by people who are proven liars.

Then again, we have a whole country on this side of the Pacific who is sucking up austerity as if through a straw via a lack of investment and the cutting of Social Security and the safety net while this government makes banks richer and supports the assets of one Mi$$ RobMe and his ilk.

Incredible.

"I saved a thousand slaves. I could have saved a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves. H. Tubman.

[closeupready]

8. West Coast real estate is some of the priciest in the world.

Do you honestly believe that owners of that land and real estate are going to want such information out there, in front of everyone? Depreciating their investments? I don't think so.

[jtuck004]

10. Ya know, at some point we need to not care so much about the intersts of the plantation owners

and start taking care of ourselves.

[FBaggins]

12. Actually yes... they are.

"Kooks telling us".

There are people falling for it and "reporting" the nonsense... but the source of the claims are about as kooky as you get (or more often, have bought the lie hook, line, and sinker and decided to resell it).

that disaster is just the next major earthquake or storm away, or just a mishandling of the material that is crumpled in the bottom of those reactors

Sorry. That simply isn't true. There is no even remotely plausible event at this point that would require evacuation of the West Coast.

[jtuck004]

16. Well, let's see here...

I have a choice between believing some anonymous Internet Identity which, if they were a person I would suspect has an incredibly high ratio of air to matter in their cranium and is trying work out inadequacies on a public web site...

Vs.


Arjun Makhijaniis an American electrical and nuclear engineer who is President of the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research. Makhijani has written many books and reports analyzing the safety, economics, and efficiency of various energy sources. He has testified before Congress and has served as an expert witness in Nuclear Regulatory Commission proceedings.

Yasuteru Yamada. The retired engineer has rallied more than 200 aging workers who have volunteered to tackle the nuclear crises at the crippled Fukushima Dai-ichi power plant. But he says, this is no suicide mission.
"We don't want to die," says the 72-year old, a former engineer for Sumitomo Metal Industries Ltd. "We just want to stabilize the nuclear plant, nothing more."

Dr Jimmy Hara, Nuclear Age Peace Foundation and professor of clinical family medicine at UCLA

David Takayoshi Suzuki, CC OBC (born March 24, 1936) is a Japanese Canadian academic, science broadcaster and environmental activist. Suzuki earned a Ph.D in zoology from the University of Chicago in 1961, and was a professor in the genetics department at the University of British Columbia from 1963 until his retirement in 2001. Since the mid-1970s, Suzuki has been known for his TV and radio series and books about nature and the environment. He is best known as host of the popular and long-running CBC Television science magazine, The Nature of Things, seen in over forty nations. He is also well known for criticizing governments for their lack of action to protect the environment, and saysTepco and the Japanese government are lying through their teeth, and Fukushima is “the most terrifying situation I can imagine”.

And in another report, nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen and physician Helen Caldicott have both said that people should evacuate the Northern Hemisphere if one of the Fukushima fuel pools collapses.

Gosh, choices...choices. If I listen to the first one and it is wrong, an ego is massaged and everyone dies. If I go with the second, and rather more credible group and they are wrong, well, we learn some things. But if they are right, perhaps something tragic is averted.

I'll stay with the second group.

Enjoy the echo. Obviously you won't have anything else I need to waste time on.

[FBaggins]

17. Thanks for proving my point.

If you find someone actually qualified to make those pronouncements... please add him/her to the list.

So far you're 0-fer

Just out of curiosity... if you're not listing Caldicott among the anti-nuclear kooks... who on earth is ON the list?

[Politicalboi]

7. Considering this will effect the US

We should DEMAND they accept our help.

[BelgianMadCow]

13. This belongs in GD

but I belong in my bed. Been following Fukushima closely and this is a good summary, though they don't go into the problem of the fuel rod removal.

[FBaggins]

14. Really creative speculation.

Just saying.