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kpete

(72,035 posts)
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 11:46 PM Dec 2013

LOL: CNN employee`s own mistake crashed Obamacare Web page





Americablog:

In a rather embarrassing revelation for CNN, their own “expert” crashed the Obamacare Web site yesterday by doing something that every child in America knows you simply do not do on the Internet: Refreshing the Web page while your transaction is processing.

Yet, an examination of the video reveals that that is exactly what CNN did – their expert refreshed the Affordable Care Act federal exchange site while their application was “processing.”

And what happened as a result? The page crashed. As it does on every single Web site in the world when you’re dumb enough to refresh the page while a transaction is in progress.

http://americablog.com/2013/12/video-shows-cnns-mistake-crashed-obamacare-web-page.html
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LOL: CNN employee`s own mistake crashed Obamacare Web page (Original Post) kpete Dec 2013 OP
d'oh! Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #1
Yes but they dont admit they made a mistake robbob Dec 2013 #2
Web Design 101: Error Handling markpkessinger Dec 2013 #12
Obviously, Their Computer "Expert" Would Know This DallasNE Dec 2013 #3
Intentional sabotage NBachers Dec 2013 #4
It should not crash the website regardless. lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #5
Correct hueymahl Dec 2013 #6
Ha! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! ... And welcome to DU!...Ha! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!...No, seriously... FourScore Dec 2013 #9
Do you know of any website that would allow a refresh in the middle of a transaction? pacalo Dec 2013 #11
Most, actually... markpkessinger Dec 2013 #13
Virtually any modern web site hueymahl Dec 2013 #15
Any well written web page should not crash, especially on a reset. Perhaps the definition of "crash lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #18
It didn't "crash the website" Bongo Prophet Dec 2013 #8
It shouldn't crash the page . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #10
i was thinking the same hourglass1 Dec 2013 #14
That isn't what the first sentence said, so the OP should correct it. In addition, it should not lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #17
If he's an expert Lordquinton Dec 2013 #7
why weissmam Dec 2013 #16
The point is, a user can and will do anything, and that is why a programmer codes for those lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #19
Exactly -- see #12 above . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #20
Try/catch. Perspective is very important. You are right lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #21

robbob

(3,539 posts)
2. Yes but they dont admit they made a mistake
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:57 AM
Dec 2013

so to anyone watching, it looks like the web site is still glitchy

markpkessinger

(8,409 posts)
12. Web Design 101: Error Handling
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 04:25 AM
Dec 2013

Proper error handling is a very basic, fundamental skill for any web developer. It is simply not true that one can "never" hit refresh while a transmission of information transaction. Informational transactions can be handled differently from purchase transactions.

With purchase transactions, the reason one doesn't hit "refresh" while the transaction is not that doing so will crash the page, but rather that the credit card authorization may have already been transmitted to the credit card company, and there is thus a danger that it will be submitted and reauthorized a second time, resulting in a double charge to your credit card. If a "refresh" command is issued while the purchase transaction is processing, appropriate error handling would return a message to the user, reminding him or her that the purchase transaction has already been submitted, and that resubmitting could cause the user to be charged a second time. It should then give the user an option to resubmit, or not.

With the transfer of information, where there is no danger of double-billing, a simple message asking if the user wants to resubmit the data will suffice. If the user then chooses to resubmit, the web server cancels the prior request, and resubmits the data as a new transaction.

In NEITHER event, however, should hitting "refresh" result in the page crashing. If it does, it is reflective of very poor design.

DallasNE

(7,404 posts)
3. Obviously, Their Computer "Expert" Would Know This
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 01:22 AM
Dec 2013

So the assumption has to be that CNN wanted to say "see, the ACA web sit is still broken" so this was a sure way to get the result they were looking for. Highly dishonest but that is how MSM operates any more.

hueymahl

(2,510 posts)
6. Correct
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 02:10 AM
Dec 2013

A properly constructed site would not be phased by a refresh. Worst case you would have to reenter some information. Clearly it is not yet tracking "state" properly.

Glad to see the site is getting better, but it is still a massive POS.

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
9. Ha! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! ... And welcome to DU!...Ha! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!...No, seriously...
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 03:25 AM
Dec 2013

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markpkessinger

(8,409 posts)
13. Most, actually...
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 04:43 AM
Dec 2013

... the exception being transactions involving purchase, where resubmission could result in double-billing. See #12 for a fuller explanation.

hueymahl

(2,510 posts)
15. Virtually any modern web site
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 09:28 AM
Dec 2013

American Ezpress, Geico, citibannk, state farm, amazon, walmart, USPS, USPTO, NewEgg are just a few I am familiar with and are as complicated or more complicated, with higher volumes, than what healthcare.gov is trying to do. At WORST you lose the information on the page you refreshed. It does NOT result in kicking you out or "crashing" whatever process you are in.

The knee-jerk reaction by some around here screaming conspiracy at every turn is pretty worn out. We have plenty of things worth fighting for. It doesn't hurt to acknowledge the truth that a program we back and is backed by fellow democrats needs to be fixed.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
18. Any well written web page should not crash, especially on a reset. Perhaps the definition of "crash
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:50 PM
Dec 2013

is not being used properly.

Bongo Prophet

(2,653 posts)
8. It didn't "crash the website"
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 02:17 AM
Dec 2013

It just "crashed" the viewer's page. which is true of any site that you purchase items from, or other times when you submit data. While it is working, you do not refresh. Many sites will have that warning in text during that time.

Maybe they should do that, to help "idiot-proof" the thing.
And of course the tech guru should know that, and probably does...

markpkessinger

(8,409 posts)
10. It shouldn't crash the page . . .
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 04:22 AM
Dec 2013

. . . instead, any well designed site that handles an information transaction should, if a "refresh" command is received while a prior transmission of information is still processing, prompt the user as to whether or not the user wishes to resubmit the data. Any well-designed website will have built into it a mechanism for handling errant clicks or refresh commands. That is like web design 101. The fact that this website couldn't handle it reflects extremely poor QA.

hourglass1

(175 posts)
14. i was thinking the same
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 05:09 AM
Dec 2013

thing ... it only crashed the user's web browser (most likely explorer) page not the healthcare website ...

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
17. That isn't what the first sentence said, so the OP should correct it. In addition, it should not
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:47 PM
Dec 2013

crash the web page either.

Here is the line from the OP which said it crashed the web site:

"In a rather embarrassing revelation for CNN, their own “expert” crashed the Obamacare Web site yesterday"

If that is not the case they should correct it

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
19. The point is, a user can and will do anything, and that is why a programmer codes for those
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:51 PM
Dec 2013

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situations.

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