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Related: About this forumAyn Rand and Satanic Philosphy
A fascinating interview with Anton Levay, the founder of modern mainstream Satanism.
Note the similarities between mainstream, yes there is such a thing, Satanic Philosophy and Ayn Rand's Philosophy which is promoted by Republicans.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)And I know because I have read Anton LaVey's books...the Satanic Bible and The Satanic Ritual, and his philosophy is the same as Ayn Rand's....Greed and selfishness is good.
And it is ironic that fundamentalist Christians have bought into it.
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deutsey
(20,166 posts)and watched clips of LaVey and clips of his daughter and husband Nikolas Schreck (when they were Satanists), and as I listened to them, it occurred to me how similar what they were saying is with Rand's philosophy.
I had never seen LaVey's quote about Rand before. Thanks for the confirmation.
I can't access the videos in this OP at the moment, but I will check them out later.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)I think it's rather important to tout this connection. Especially since Republicans are coming after the pope. Makes a good contrast.
dawg
(10,624 posts)how someone could call themselves a Christian and yet espouse the philosophies of Ayn Rand. It's a little bit like calling yourself a capitalist and then claiming that your biggest inspiration is Karl Marx.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)New American Calvinism by Steven Grant
by Buzz on 25/04/2012
Writer Steven Grant recently posted the below on his FB wall.
I think hes hit a particular nail square on the head and I
think calling em NACs (New American Calvinists) instead of
Andrew Sullivans Christianist does a better job of separating
them from more genuine followers of the faith.
Calvinism was never Christianity. It was an active distortion of Christianity that aggrandized the rich, by making visible wealth on earth the signifier of Gods love. Calvins core tenet is that all who will go to heaven were chosen at the beginning of time, as were all who werent. The reprobate are damned because they were always meant to be damned. The preterite are not saved because they were never meant to be saved. Needless to say, the wealthy citizens of Geneva embraced this.
In Calvinism, money=grace. The New American Calvinism takes this one step further: not only does money=grace but no money=sin.
Nowhere is this clearer than in the language of Citizens United, & the court decision allowing SuperPACs, funded by corporations & the ultrarich, unfettered ability to distort the American political process. Unraveling the language, it becomes apparent that citizen now refers to exactly that: corporations & the ultrarich. (This is also promoted by advocates of an unamended Constitution & return to pre-Constutional ideas of some founding fathers, specifically those who believed government was best served by restricting the vote to landed gentry.) By contrast, those not fitting into that class are no longer commonly referred to as citizens but as consumers, whose position in life is to further fund (mostly but not exclusively by accumulation of goods) the ambitions of citizens. Even lower are those most in need, now rarely called the poor & instead commonly derided as welfare cases. America is now being actively stratified by the New American Calvinism into, by their reckoning, God-determined natural order of Citizen, Consumer & Welfare Case, paralleling the original Calvinist classifications of Elect, Preterite & Reprobate. With a philosophical addition perhaps accidentally paralleling the philosophy of 1st Century Christianity, when the return of Christ to Earth was still thought to be imminent & occurring within their lifetimes. Original sin would be washed away, & those saved would henceforth be without sin. This has been interpreted by later generations as a world where no one sinned, but in their view it was rather that sin itself would no longer exist, that no behavior would be classified as sin. In a similar turn of mind, in New American Calvinism, grace not only determines The Elect but removes them from the possibility of sin, so that whatever behavior they embark on, it is exempt from characterization as sin.