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- This will never stop. Never. They've tried. Over and over. Nothing ever sticks.
They won't stop without being coerced into doing so. And if we don't make them stop, whatever happens -- we will have deserved it. Because we sat around on our collective asses and let them get away with it.
''Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.''~Frederick Douglass
2banon
(7,321 posts)you're probably right, but i'm somewhat optimistic because the public debate is actually raging now, along with a myriad of news paper editorials taking to task the ptb (including hi tech industries) naming names, underscoring the importance of restoration of privacy rights, and pointing to the economic impact this will have. That's why that meeting took place yesterday. my local paper op ed reamed the hi tech leadership's long delay in dealing with this matter.
But I'm not naive. This won't change in any significant way unless... more revelations dictate the desired outcome and subsequent course of action leading to transparency and restoration of privacy from both Government AND business occurs.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...would show this as the inexorable end toward which we've been headed for quite some time. Since 1913 for sure. But warnings from Ike didn't change anything. And full-blown hearings (Church Committee) didn't stop them. So ''discussion'' -- even with other countries' pique over the matter -- doesn't mean they'll stop. Billions have been invested in 5-Eyes and they're going to get their money's worth.
- Nothing short of a revolution will do it. Seriously. These people are nuts.