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tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)I keep picturing Anita Bryant when I see her.... I dunno why
WhoIsNumberNone
(7,875 posts)ffr
(22,669 posts)WRONG!
Higher taxes has been proven over and over to promote economic prosperity for all classes in this country. Lower taxes does just the opposite, at least when it's unleashed by Republicans who tout the concept of 'lower taxes,' when their policies are skewed to benefit mostly wealthy taxpayers. The average Joe ends up with a $300 tax rebate, then suffers from stagnant wages and Wall Street ruin from the wealthy who gamble with Joe's retirement and U.S. Treasury raiders who view budget surpluses as money to be distributed back to the politically connected. NO THANKS, Bachmann and company!!
I'll take higher taxes every day. Give me a candidate that says he's/she's going to raise taxes and pay down the national debt. That's a future I want. Been there. I remember. Oh yeah, what did Clinton say in his SOTU address? Wasn't he labeled a liberal 'tax and spend' Democrat? "My fellow Americans, the state of the union has never been better."
NO MORE REPUBLICANS!
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Now that is why I do not subscribe to cable. Why in the world would I pay one cent of my money to Wolf Blitzer to sit there like a lump on a log and allow Michelle Bachmann to scream at the top of her lungs all kinds of nonsense.
I like Pacifica radio especially Ian Master's show in the evening and Democracy Now. The guests are not allowed to speak over each other. They treat each other courteously. The hosts ask intelligent questions and a listener can learn something.
It is impossible to learn anything or think about what guests are saying on programs like Wolf Blitzer's when the host does not insist that only one person at a time should speak.
What idiocy.
Bernie Sanders did very well. He did not insult Michelle Bachmann. But he pointed out that she was not staying on topic.
So much for cable news. I don't want in my home. I don't want it in my face.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Yes, I listened to the end. Bachmann was incredibly rude, shouting over every point Senator Sanders tried to make. She's got nothing except gish gallop, and she used that relentlessly.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Wolf Blitzer is an advocate for the interests of the 1% and he has proven that repeatedly. He isn't a journalist and seems to be incapable of calling Bachmann on anything.
And Bachmann is ridiculous. She is a stain on my home state of Minnesota.
bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)Cha
(297,190 posts)Senator Sanders should not be on the same stage together. Why drag her up from the gutter to insult people's intelligence. Why give her a smidgeon of legitimacy?
Festivito
(13,452 posts)For Republicans it is all about pretending to win.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Because Republicans like Bachmann are for the most part creationists they use the Gish Gallop technique any time they are before a camera. She threw up 10 falsehoods before Senator Sanders could even make a single statement. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop
suzanner
(590 posts)90-percent
(6,829 posts)Long thread. I learned a good description for Michelle's debating technique:
BULLHORNING
a wonderful term to describe the debating tactics of almost all Republican bullies that go on TV! Oh, for a moderator that could actually make their guests adhere to the basic rules of a debate, or simply employ basic civility!
-90% Jimmy
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)All we have to do is tell the American people what the Republican positions are and the Republicans lose.
But! And this is a huge but. Republicans keep running their mouths and throwing up a huge smoke screen of obfuscation, just like Bachmann so rudely demonstrated, so that people never hear their actual position.
Because they are for the most part creationists they use the Gish Gallop technique any time they are before a camera. She threw up a number of falsehoods before Senator Sanders could even make a single statement. When the Senator tried to respond she rudely interrupted him and make more false allegations. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop
Of course Wolf completely failed to rein Bachmann in because he is ideologically in her camp.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)MythosMaster
(445 posts)That is all they have, when truth is not on their side...
Darkhawk32
(2,100 posts)MythosMaster
(445 posts)do not even know where it is at and it sounds exotic... she is playing on peoples ignorance.
The NRA misreps gun control in Australia for 10 years now...
MythosMaster
(445 posts)How many slogans can she recite in that time.
I loved when she tried claim Bernie used a logical fallacy, while using a logical fallacy to paint him with a broad brush.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)Perhaps Michele can explain why trickle down doesn't/didn't work?
But she's not running again so she can say what her sponsors want her to say.
dinger130
(199 posts)Bernie couldn't get a word in edgewise without Batty Bachman butting in. Wolf was not in control....as he should have been.
Boomerproud
(7,952 posts)That's Wolfie for you.