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(41,694 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)and of Yellowstone was falling asleep to the songs sang by the wolves when they were nearby. It's pretty magical.
ffr
(22,671 posts)Awesome!
Awesome!
And what else was missing in great numbers from this eco-system, well it is a national park: man. Everything else belongs there and are natural.
hunter
(38,326 posts)-- John Muir, My First Summer in the Sierra, 1911
liberalla
(9,260 posts)... as if we would know better...
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Why do we mess with nature?
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)whether we understand it or not. When we killed all the wolves, we inherited their job--and did it poorly.
Tumbulu
(6,292 posts)to share! Thanks for posting this!
red dog 1
(27,847 posts)The primary wolf killers in the USA are the Federal Wildlife Services, a branch of the USDA.
They use federal sharp-shooters to kill the wolves from USDA helicopters, in National Parks, at taxpayer expense, in order to placate hunters and ranchers.
To sign a petition to U.S. Department of the Interior Secretary Sally Jewell
"To End The Wanton Killing Of Wolves And Save Them From Extinction"
http://www.change.org/petitions/save-the-wolves-4/
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)With a virtual endless supply of food for the wolves, it's probably not that great to let their population expand too rapidly, but as far as the hunter's and ranchers concerns go, I could care less. Wolves are a native species. Cows are not. It's not a good idea for the wolves to prey on livestock, but the ranchers need to figure out what their ancestors did in order to deter wolves rather than shooting them like developing blood lines of guard dogs specifically bred for the job.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)great misinformation tactics and emotional triggers used to continue the wanton killing of wolves on the landscape are the lies about wolves breeding without limit. And that they will eat all their prey only to move on and start eating children waiting at a bus stop in the dark. (Seriously, this is common parlance of legislators, senators and Congress people in Idaho, Wyoming and other states where the hysteria of wolves is rampant.
The truth is that wolves actually regulate their numbers without our help.
1) Wolves establish a "range" and generally stay within the boundaries of that range unless a catastrophe like a massive wild fire or flood that removes all their food or humans usurp their habitat.
2) Wolves reproduce ONCE/YEAR and in some years not at all if the prey numbers don't fall within the number needed to sustain the increased number. When wolves were returned to YNP they bred in large numbers due to the overwhelming number of elk (their primary diet though some will successfully thrive on Bison as the Molly's pack did in Pelican Valley and one pack was reported to have two females bear litters in one year).
3) Wolves don't live very long in the wild, there have been a few cases of long lived individuals but it's not common. The average lifespan of a wild wolf is 4-6 years.
4) Wolves will reject individuals who will wander off to establish their own pack IF they make it through the ranges of other wolf packs and/or IF they actually find a breeding mate.
5) Wolves will kill other wolves for a variety of reasons like intrusion of range boundaries or some other infraction that we humans can't fathom.
They regulate naturally and have familial connectivity, when the alpha pair are killed off, the sub-adults lack the training for how to hunt, raise young, stay away from dangerous other species like humans... they are very curious beings.
Also, they don't breed with relatives, a breeding pair generally come from unrelated packs, genetic integrity is important. The only place where it is known to not be the case is Isle Royale in the Great Lakes where there is little opportunity to get to the mainland, and those wolves eat moose because that's what's there. Most predators are opportunists of a sort.
Good little video, though. All of the points made in it have been documented and peer reviewed and repeated over the last twenty years, some facts for longer than that.
rwsanders
(2,606 posts)to.
The better control would be to start moving ranchers from these areas.
japple
(9,839 posts)WAKE UP all wide-eyed. Then they went back to sleep. Thanks for posting. I have shared this with many others today.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)Nature has it's own balance. We need to respect it instead of manipulating it.
1monster
(11,012 posts)When I started playing the video, she stiffened immediately and tensed in a way that told me she was about to head for a serious hiding place. I rubbed her softly and told her it was okay and she went back to sleep...
Esse Quam Videri
(685 posts)Incredible to see one in person.
love_katz
(2,584 posts)Thinking Like A Mountain.
This essay can be found in his book, A Sand County Almanac.
This video is a visual proof that Aldo was right.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)2naSalit
(86,775 posts)They eat/prefer elk.
reusrename
(1,716 posts)The males shed their antlers which makes them a type of deer.
I know that but for many there is confusion about that so I thought I would mention it. No snark intended.
love_katz
(2,584 posts)This is exactly what the video is saying.
I wish more people would read "A Sand County Almanac". I first encountered it in high school. It changed me forever.
1monster
(11,012 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)progressoid
(49,998 posts)But it seems to me, that could have been called 'How Deer Changed the River'.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)But I suspect there wasn't much evidence of how the river appeared prior to the eradication of wolves in Yellowstone valley.
Kali
(55,019 posts)Alan Savory was working on this 30-40 years ago.