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TYT "Everyone Gets A Gun" NRA Ad Campaign (Original Post) blackspade Jul 2014 OP
Codpiece Lunatics. onehandle Jul 2014 #1
What we need... Plucketeer Jul 2014 #2
I've considered it flobee1 Jul 2014 #5
Guns are tools of death - nothing more, nothing less Plucketeer Jul 2014 #6
This is pure and simple fascism Jack Rabbit Jul 2014 #3
RE think negoldie Jul 2014 #7
Spends all on guns and El Shaman Jul 2014 #4
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
2. What we need...
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 02:04 PM
Jul 2014

is to have some folks brave enough to show up at these open carry events - with their guns - and dressed in traditional Muslim garb!

flobee1

(870 posts)
5. I've considered it
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 06:42 PM
Jul 2014

but have not had the courage as of yet

and comparing parks and jobs to WEAPONS is beyond insanity!
I'll say it again GUNS ARE WEAPONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There ARE some people who should be restricted from owning a gun.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
6. Guns are tools of death - nothing more, nothing less
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 06:56 PM
Jul 2014

Guns weren't invented out of necessity to stem a plague of paper targets - they're meant to slaughter living creatures, no matter how many legs they walk on.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
3. This is pure and simple fascism
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 02:56 PM
Jul 2014

In the seventies, a few backwater communities with a gun nut majority in each passed local ordinances requiring everybody to own a firearm. The NRA's position at that time on such ordinance was opposition to them. The second amendment guaranteed a right to bear arms, but not an obligation to do so. I do not agree that the right to own a gun is an individual right, but at least the position taken by the NRA then is one I can respect. The government required all citizens to purchase a particular product from a private source is fascism.

What is being presented here is not worthy of respect. This is the government requiring that citizens possess firearms, and here we don't see that NRA as a positive organization that offers local classes in gun safety and tries to make sure, perhaps too sure, that gun rights are not violated by legislative bodies, but a cabal of gun manufacturers seeking to use the police power of the government to impose an obligation on citizens to purchase a firearm, either directly or indirectly through taxation in order to make sure that everyone, rich or poor, is armed.

One might ask how that differs from requiring drivers to purchase auto insurance. That would be similar, in some ways, but there would be a critical difference. There would still be no obligation to drive a car. If one does drive a car, not only should that person have auto insurance, but that person should also demonstrate that he knows how to operate a motor vehicle safely. This sounds like a better model for gun ownership than making it a constitutionally protected right, but I digress. Now, if the government required all citizens to own a car, that would be more in line with what Mr. Johnson is advocating.

Polls show that most Americans want background checks on individuals seeking to purchase a firearm. This is a common sense measure aimed at keeping a weapon out of the hands of a psychopath would shoot up a public school, a women's dormitory or a movie theater, but the NRA, as the association protecting the profits of gun manufacturers, opposes this kind of common sense. Now if we do what Mr. Johnson proposes, the government would make sure that such people that a background check might prevent from having access to a firearm would have a firearm.

To paraphrase Joe the Plumber, Smith and Wesson's profits trump our dead children.


negoldie

(198 posts)
7. RE think
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 07:19 AM
Jul 2014

"The government required all citizens to purchase a particular product from a private source is fascism".
Everyone is required to purchase health insurance. Is that fascism? Not everyone drives a car, but everyone will have a health issue before they die.
I understand some of your argument but......
I also agree these gun manufacturers are over the top, I would re think your argument a little further though. Your car analogy is a little off.

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