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snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 11:40 AM Dec 2014

Festive Lights Illiminate Russian Capital

I know it's RT however this is a beautiful video. I paused in several times to look at items in the outdoor market. I have to wonder what would happen if we could see more of the things we have in common rather than always emphasizing our differences?



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dvduval

(260 posts)
1. Great people
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:43 PM
Dec 2014

Russia has some great people that I hope will have a great year in 2015. Unfortunately, they have a leader that puts his own ego and power first, and the Russian people second. If he were to announce withdrawal of troops from Crimea today, and set the stage for free and fair elections, Russia would be so much better off in the years ahead. Probably not going to happen this is a time for wishful thinking.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
4. The elections were monitored by independent foreign sources. Russia has had
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 07:43 PM
Dec 2014

'connection' to Crimea since the late 1600's and were allowed troops there all the time to protect their seaport and paid Ukraine money for that...not anymore though since Crimea (75 % Russian) became annexed.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
2. Pussy Riot occupied that yesterday! Got arrested for it
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 05:17 PM
Dec 2014

Pretty lights on RT cover up for a slide into dictatorship


Twenty activists including Masha Alyokhina from Pussy Riot were arrested in Moscow on Wednesday yesterday, after staging an all-night protest against the conviction of the Kremlin critic Alexei Navalny and his brother Oleg.
...
A small group of activists including Alyokhina, and the anti-Putin blogger Arseny Bobrovsky, took refuge in a giant Christmas ball on Moscow’s Manezh Square, directly in front of the Kremlin. Despite freezing conditions they spent the night inside. They held up banners saying that they would “occupy the globe” until Oleg Navalny was freed.

At 8am Moscow time, the police moved in and arrested those inside[https://twitter.com/annalena08/status/550177932350869504/photo/1]. “They came from two directions, took everyone’s documents, and then literally used their arms to drag us out,” Alyokhina told the news portal Mediazona.

She added: “I consider all those who came out and spent the night in the ball to be heroes. It was -20C.”

read more http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/31/pussy-riot-activist-masha-alyokhina-arrested-alexei-navalny-protest

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
3. Almost everything you post has a parallell in the good ol' US of A.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 07:34 PM
Dec 2014

Protestors got arrested among the festive lights in the MoA and some were arrested too. A slide into dictatorship here?

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
5. you serious comparing the gov't of the USA to the Putin regime?
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 07:50 PM
Dec 2014

Seriously? Or joking?
Putin putting Navalny's brother in prison is like Obama putting Chelsea Clinton in prison.
The anti-gay laws? The closing down of independent media? The imprisonment and murder of political rivals? Sergei Magnitsky? The neo-Nazi death squads that killed progressives, dissidents, journalists, immigrants, judges and leftists--and now say they took their orders from Putin's right hand man? http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016108163
You really say there's a "parallel"?

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
7. Political enemies are never incarcerated in the U.S. Ummmm....
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 03:04 PM
Jan 2015

Don Seigelman comes to mind right off.

You're very selective into which propaganda you select as the truth. I read your link. So I surmise that you believe the admitted killers. Of course the Kremlin was nervous...listening to neo-nazis spew while they were trying to promote their agenda. Russia is not a friend of nazi dogma...or they wasted 2,000,000 lives fighting them in WWII. Putin (political animal) would not want to be seen by his people as a promoter of these historical enemies. God only knows how many people believe neo-nazi crap like that. Make the connection...you think this didn't influence Crimea to seek annexation, i.e. the fear of the neo-nazi influence in the coup gov't of Kiev? Never mind.

And, yes there are many parallels in U.S. Don't you have knowledge of news reports about people suicided, missing, in mysterious plane crashes, defamed, careers ruined (whistleblowers), etc. here? Google is you friend.

Russian anti-gay laws? Please tell me about specific Russian gov't laws. I plead completely ignorant. However, I can understand chastizing groups like Pussy Riot. They have desecrated holy sites and I assume that does nothing for their cause, esp. with the Russian Orthodox Church. They would be arrested here too if they put on vile acts in the National Cathedral, don't you think? If I were a member of the LGBT community in Russia, I would not Hold Pussy Riot in high regard.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
8. most amazing post of 2015. you "plead completely ignorant" and yet still rant on Putin apologia
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 03:21 PM
Jan 2015

and conspiracy theory

Come back when you're not "completely ignorant"

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
6. Thanks! when I saw it...
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 12:51 AM
Jan 2015

...that's what I suspected! And thanks for taking exception to the "doctrine of moral equivalence" in the reply to your observation.

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