Rep. Alan Grayson: ‘88 seconds to Debate the TPP’?

[midnight]

[1StrongBlackMan]

1. This is completely disengenuous ...

88 second on the floor ... 60 days before the American public. How many people have ever watch C-Span?

[truedelphi]

2. Democracy is done and stick a fork in it. And does anyone

Know if the language contained in the TPP provisions still carries a serious penalty, including jail time, for discussing various aspects of the TPP?

[Enthusiast]

14. I will hate those responsible till my dying breath.

[SamKnause]

3. K&R !!!

Those in favor and those opposed should watch this video.

[djean111]

4. So - the Investor State will actually trump soveriegn states and laws.

Here is the type of thing that will be happening - Vattenfall is a Swedish company that is currently suing Germany because Germany decided to phase out nuclear plants....

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/vattenfall-vs-germany-nuclear-phase-out-faces-billion-euro-lawsuit-a-795466.html

According to Handelsblatt, Vattenfall has an advantage in seeking compensation because the company has its headquarters abroad. As a Swedish company, Vattenfall can invoke investment rules under the Energy Charter Treaty (ECT), which protect foreign investors in signatory nations from interference in property rights. That includes, according to the treaty's text, a "fair and equitable treatment" of investors.

The Swedish company has already filed suit once against the German government at the ICSID. In 2009, Vattenfall sued the federal government over stricter environmental regulations on its coal-fired power plant in Hamburg-Moorburg, seeking €1.4 billion plus interest in damages. The parties settled out of court in August 2010.

The Kochs must be delirious with joy - finally! the ability to get rid of those pesky regulations!
How anyone can be for this thing is beyond me, it really is.

[arcane1]

5. "Corporate Persons" are greater than people. "Corporate States" will be greater than nations.

Any Dem who votes for this needs to have their asses primaried and voted out of office in disgrace.

ANY Dem who supports this, in vote or in word, loses my vote forever.

[djean111]

6. Same for me. n/t

[Efilroft Sul]

7. Truer words were never spoken.

And yet, the Third Way types will probably come on here and say, "How can you be against this if you don't know what's in it blah blah fucking blah?" They should all take Bill Hicks' advice about those who work in marketing.

[JDPriestly]

10. Same here.

[Enthusiast]

12. PLUS ONE, a huge bunch!

[msongs]

8. publish the entire treaty on the internet 30 days before congressional discussions are allowed nt

[DeSwiss]

9. We're screwn anyways......

...so that should be plenty.

- In the words of the Prophet Zappa: ''And you will see the brick wall.....''

Well, this is it.

K&R

[Enthusiast]

13. ...

[grahamhgreen]

11. Kick

[geretogo]

15. Does anyone need a better reason why the turn out at the polls in 2014 was so horribly low ?

The gig is up. Slowly the people are realizing democracy in America is a joke . I predict
the turn out in 2016 will be even lower . When half the U.S. population has no work and or sees no chance
of getting a productive living wage job maybe the up rising on the streets will begin .

[burrowowl]

16. K&R!!!!!!!!!!!

What has possessed Obama to back this?