Warrenistas make low-budget video, embarass selves

[MannyGoldstein]

No slick production values, no vague, poll-tested phrasings... just heartfelt words.

What's with these people?

Regards,

TWM

P.S. Thanks to RiverLover for originally posting this video, hidden in the EW group. Hell, I'd try to hide it, too, if I were one of them.

[lob1]

1. They also have way too many women and minorities.

I guess they couldn't find enough old white guys to do the parts. Cheap production.

[QuestionAlways]

31. Good Video, Love Liz and all that she stands for

but I still support Hillary with all her warts

[Bohemianwriter]

58. So you support a corporatist..

...who's being funded by Wall Street and that's the only reason why she is a front runner?

And I thought that only republican voters were suckers.

[Katashi_itto]

66. +1000

[QuestionAlways]

68. As I explain below, Warren is not running

and IMHO no other democratic candidate will beat the Republicans except Hillary. Remember SCOTUS will have a couple of new judges, and we cannot lose the WH. Most Americans are low information voters who feel comfortable with her.

[Katashi_itto]

65. To much diversity. It's a plot to discredit Hillary.

[Politicalboi]

2. Yes, pretty bad

But nobody is making shit up about sniper fire and ancestry or how Elizabeth got her name.

[Autumn]

3. Let me get this out of the way Manny, she's not running!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But we desperately need her to run. As one smart person said, we need her to take her rightful place in the history of this great nation.

What an awesome video.

edited to add a couple more explanation marks cause Manny caught me. I would hang my head in shame if we had an emoticon for it.

[MannyGoldstein]

6. Only one exclamation point in your title?

One can only speculate as to your loyalties...

[Autumn]

7. Drat it, I mess up and outed myself.

[Scootaloo]

12. No ones or tildes, either!

[Autumn]

14. It's hard to deny my Warrenista heritage.

I try but I can't do it.

[QuestionAlways]

34. Elizabeth Warren may NEVER run for President of US

She does not like running or campaigning for office. We must be aware she was reluctant to run for the Senate. However, MA is a small state, but even there she did not enjoy campaigning for office. Not everyone has the fire in the belly required to run from place to place all across the whole US for a year and a half. She enjoys staying home and performing the duties she was elected to do. Speaking out on issues is very different from a presidential campaign. Please respect her wishes and understand this. At this point, it should be apparent to you she has no intention of running for President of the United States. Instead of wasting your time saying "run Warren run" you should urge, support, and help your second choice candidate in their run for president. Hoping Liz runs is just a waste of time and energy.

[Autumn]

36. She's not running!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will you be okay when Bernie announces he's running? But hey watch the video anyway.

Seriously people in the video want her to run, No harm in discussing it.

[QuestionAlways]

42. Hell, the Democrats need a primary

and debates. We can not let the Republicans get all that free air-time on TV, while we get none. Nor can we let them be the only ones throwing out new ideas and solutions to the problems this nation faces. I look forward to Bernie entering the race, even if Hillary has to give him a campaign donation.

[libdem4life]

72. Are you really, really sure??????????????????????????? LOL. It's a tough crowd around here.

[Autumn]

73. Well it is subject to change. Liz wouldn't be the first to say she's not running and then run.

It ain't over till it's over.

[libdem4life]

74. i was just kidding...totally agree...She's Not Running, no way no how. She is so

perfect doing what she is doing and the more publicity she gets the more she takes over the reins of the Progressive Left Flank. I hope she can get together with Howard Dean, as he's working with Democrats for America. We need all we can get. Bernie, too. There's a lot of talent and good people we have to work with. Now just to get the organization and money from down ticket up.

[AtomicKitten]

81. I'd tell a friend if they had spinach in their teeth.

So, here goes. You are woefully exclamation mark deficient.

[MannyGoldstein]

38. Which is why she's spent the last year and a half

running from place to place all across the whole US.

[QuestionAlways]

41. Manny, I know your heart is in the right place

But running from place to place, once or twice a week promoting a policy or idea, is different from being on the road 24/7 giving 3 or 4 speeches each day in a different place, and having no life of your own. It is not for everybody.

BTW, I have no idea what you are talking about when you say "are you still thinking that Sen. Warren has a soft place in her heart for ISIS because she voted to not give advanced weapons to shadowy "Syrian rebels"? I never said that, and I have no idea where you came up with this.

I love Senator Warren and all she stands for, and I have a friend who is very close to her, which is the reason I have said for the last 6 months she was not running. Support your second choice candidate and stop wasting your time hoping she will run..

[RufusTFirefly]

45. Only a battle-tested candidate who's withstood Bosnian sniper fire deserves to be President. n/t

[Darb]

53. Teabag talking point.

FYI

[MannyGoldstein]

54. Oh. Hillary didn't totally fabricate a claim that

she was being shot at by Bosnian snipers?

I thought she had actually claimed that.

[progree]

57. It apparently happened for real for sure

“I certainly do remember that trip to Bosnia. I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”

[font color = blue]>>a claim that she was being shot at by Bosnian snipers?<<[/font]

No. The snipers were in Bosnia, but that doesn't mean they were [font color = blue]"Bosnian snipers"[/font]. That's one inference too far. It could have been the Maidan Fascists who were doing the sniping in Bosnia, since they were and are the ultimate international boogymen that are destabilizing Europe.

Bzzzzt. Fail.

Also she didn't claim to [font color = blue]"being shot at by Bosnian snipers"[/font]. Rather she said I landed "under" sniper fire. So they were apparently shooting overhead -- over the plane as it landed, setting up a protective overhead screen of covering fire to safeguard such a distinguished visitor.

Bzzzzt. Fail.

[RufusTFirefly]

67. Nice try. Have you ever seen the footage of her landing?

She and Chelsea are walking around, shaking hands and chatting with people. Do you truly believe that would've been the case if there had been actual sniper fire, even in the incredible way you described it?

Besides, even Hillary has admitted she misspoke (love that euphemism). She claimed that she was sleep-deprived and then couldn't help but add a classic tone-deaf Hillary explanation that speaks volumes about her general attitude

"Occasionally, I am a human being like everybody else... For the first time in 12 or so years I misspoke."

The problem (among other things) is that she told this ridiculous story more than once!

SOURCE: "I was sleep-deprived" (Atlantic Monthly)

Befitting a Midwestern Methodist with a bullying father, repression has always been one of Mrs. Clinton’s most prominent characteristics. Hers has been the instinct to conceal, to deny, to refuse to admit any mistake. Mickey Kantor, the Los Angeles lawyer who worked on the 1992 campaign, said that Hillary adamantly refused to admit to any mistakes.

SOURCE: The Making of Hillary Clinton: Secrecy, Intransigence, and War (CounterPunch)

[progree]

70. Yes, I've seen the video of her landing. She is lucky to be alive, and that's our good fortune too

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We need coolness under fire like that in the person who answers the 3 A.M. red telephone calls

News footage that was suppressed for years because it would have made the Secret Service look bad for not better protecting the FLOTUS.

[kenfrequed]

89. Feh...

I don't care if she was shot at. It doesn't mean she has the right answers about policy or what needs to happen. I know tons of guys from the service who served in more active theaters and some of them I wouldn't trust as soil commissioner.

[progree]

90. I was being utterly sarcastic in #70

I didn't include the sarcasm thingy, but I including the Rolling on the Floor icon at the bottom. And the video is obviously a doctored up humor piece.

[kenfrequed]

91. Oh, sorry

I didn't watch the video. Sorry about that. My apologies and all that, I just have run into more than a few Hillary people here. My sarcasm detector is obviously broken again.

[progree]

92. No problem. Although I might vote for Hillary ....

if she was running for soil commissioner, and there was nobody else on the ballot (out of fear that there might be a write-in campaign for some real right-wing whack-a-doodle)

For your reading pleasure,

"If Clinton won’t level with voters now, when will she?"
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/if-clinton-wont-level-with-voters-now-when-will-118886601211.html

[MannyGoldstein]

47. Sorry about the ISIS thing

Had you confused with another poster. Will update my post.

[QuestionAlways]

50. No Problem, you are a prolific poster and I know it is easy to get confused

with the replies you receive

[hedda_foil]

55. Exactly, Manny. She's been campaigning like crazy across the country.

But that doesn't mean she's positioning herself to run if Hillary's campaign starts to run out of steam. For a non-politician, she's a Damn good ... politician.

[whereisjustice]

4. They mention ideas that make the super rich uncomfortable! How dare they!

[cascadiance]

5. We don't have a constitutional right to vote! Why are we even worried about this now!

We just need to worry about having enough money to eat dinner. Don't keep distracting us!

[haikugal]

8. Wow, what a terrible video!!!!

I see it was Third Way Manny that posted it, figures.

[RiverLover]

9. Manny, Manny, how could you?!?

I'm SO embarrassed.



Run Warren Run!!

[MannyGoldstein]

10. America needs some light to shine on your sick little bunch

You people are causing serious pain in the lives of real people. Larry Summers. Jamie and Lloyd. Where will it end?

[monmouth4]

11. I so enjoyed that. Thanks Manny, wonderful...n/t

[Fairgo]

13. I love Spring

So many greenshoots, such a hopefull world of growth and possibilities.

[Electric Monk]

15. Hulk MAD at income inequality and banksters getting away with committing mortgage frauds!!

[bbgrunt]

20. respect to Mark Ruffalo!!

[Geronimoe]

16. Americans live in a fantasy world

They sit on the fat asses munching junk food filed with chemicals and hope a hero will fix everything.

They don't have the energy to march into Washington to demand change, to demand an end to TPP or the XL-Keystone Pipeline.

[djean111]

46. Marchers in Washington will just get kettled, tased, pepper-sprayed, shot with rubber bullets,

wrestled to the ground, held with choke-holds, and arrested. I believe the police are HOPING for demonstrations. And very few politicians in Washington give a shit. Either they do not have to worry about reelected, or they have enough CU money and gerrymandered districts tht they don't worry about votes. After all, who ya gonna vote for is the slogan of the day.

The fix is in.

[Bohemianwriter]

60. Well...

The Boston Tea party wasn't any picnic either...

[RiverLover]

61. 300000 people marched in New York calling for Climate Action

And it got zapped by the media. Virtually NO reporting on it of any consequence.

And even here at DU, we just had a Fight for 15 this week that has been ignored.

People can march all they want, but if others don't know about it, it doesn't seem to help anything. And your post illustrates what a negative impact the msm has when it ignores public dissent.

Or in the case of Occupy, msm has the power to belittle & degrade the uprise.

All Americans aren't lazy but the media & the corporations running the show have a vested interest in keeping the status quo. And the ignorance.

[Enthusiast]

17. Oh, baby!

[Fred Sanders]

18. Yes, it is possible to support Warren, not running, and Clinton, running, at the same time...try it...no pain at all.

Warren supports Clinton and Clinton supports Warren...what to make of that?

The enemy is Republicans, not Warren or Clinton - not even Obama - so focus, people.

[onwardsand upwards]

30. The problem is that Clinton stands for nothing but power.

Like all "mainstream" US politicians, she takes her orders from the 0.01% and the Council on Foreign Relations.

Clinton pretends to be what Warren actually is (or, at least, appears to be). If made President, Clinton would focus her attention on pleasing the oligarchs that run the show, and throw cosmetic little bones to the wee ones (i.e., everyone else).

Warren has clearly been warned, by the powers that be, not to run, because it is "Hillary's turn". Sadly, even she bows this kind of pressure.

The wee ones will have to wait, again ...

[QuestionAlways]

39. Please do not demean Liz "even she bows to this kind of pressure."

If she was being pressured, giving into it would be the last thing that would happen. As I said above: She does not like running or campaigning for office. We must be aware she was reluctant to run for the Senate. However, MA is a small state, but even there she did not enjoy campaigning for office. Not everyone has the fire in the belly required to run from place to place all across the whole US for a year and a half. She enjoys staying home and performing the duties she was elected to do. Speaking out on issues is very different from a presidential campaign. Please respect her wishes and understand this. At this point, it should be apparent to you she has no intention of running for President of the United States. Instead of wasting your time saying "run Warren run" you should urge, support, and help your second choice candidate in their run for president. Hoping Liz runs is just a waste of time and energy.

[onwardsand upwards]

83. I certainly didn't mean to demean her.

I'm a big fan.

It's disappointing, though, if, after all she has done, which has catapulted her to being the true beacon of hope, she shies away from the big event.

Is she really willing to let Hillary Clinton usher in 8 more years of "business, as usual"?

The US, and the world in general, needs a true champion, not the faux "champion" marketed by the Clinton camp.

You call her by the diminutive "Liz", so maybe you know her personally, and know a lot more about her than I do. Maybe there is something in her personal story that really does prevent her from running. I'm definitely sympathetic to that. It's also true that we should be appreciative of what she's done so far -- far more than most other senators combined -- to make the world a better place.

However, she can no longer hide behind obscurity, or pretend that her decision doesn't matter. She has become the face of hope. If she folds in the face of fire, then so does hope.

Like it or not, this is her time to shine ...

[QuestionAlways]

84. Please understand this

1) Senator Warren does not like the 24/7 demands of running for office
and
2) She signed a letter urging Hillary to run, which to her is the equivalent of promising she will support Hillary. Running against Hillary is breaking that promise and Liz above all, is an honorable person.

[onwardsand upwards]

85. Understood ...

However:

No one likes the 24/7 demands of running for office. Being a champion requires sacrifice, and being the champion requires awful sacrifice. She has the potential to walk the path of Gandhi, Martin Luther King and Aung San Suu Kyi.

I see no contradiction in urging someone to run and running in the same race. We all benefit from healthy competition with a strong field of candidates. Elizabeth Warren's candidature would raise the level of debate immeasurably and, if Hillary Clinton won against Elizabeth Warren (as she probably would) then it would make her victory all the more legitimate.

I still have hope ...

[QuestionAlways]

86. Hope springs eternal

As someone said, Warren is not stupid, and she realizes it would be very difficult to beat Hillary.

Hillary has been running for 9 years, and she has gotten the organizational and establishment support of the democratic party. She is the safest bet there is, and the pro's like safe. The last time she also had these advantages, so she just sat back and waited to be handed the prize. She did not realize Obama was a revolutionary figure, the first black man who had a realistic chance to be POTUS. She learned from the last time and will not make the same mistake again.

This time she is not sitting back, and she is also the revolutionary figure, the first woman who has a realistic chance to be POTUS. And unlike last last time, this time she is calling attention to it. This is why other possible candidates know they really have no realistic chance of winning, so they are avoiding the race.

Given the 2 points I made above, why should she run, if she is perfectly happy where she is at. Bernie and O'malley will be running soon and they could use your support, time and energy.

[QuestionAlways]

87. Senator Warren would be embarrassed by your saying

She has the potential to walk the path of Gandhi, Martin Luther King and Aung San Suu Kyi.

She has no delusions that she is the champion who walks in the path of Gandhi, Martin Luther King and Aung San Suu Kyi. Those were giants, the like of which, we will not see soon again. She sees herself as just a Senator doing her job.

[onwardsand upwards]

88. We can all walk that path if we choose.

They were (and are) humans, not giants, after all.

It takes only courage, integrity, and conviction.

If we declare them superhuman, idolize them, and resign ourselves to be unworthy of that path, then we fail them.

[DeSwiss]

19. All those words are wasted on the real person who needs to hear them.

- Everybody else......

K&R

You've got to get mad. You've got to stand up and say I'm a human being goddammit, my life has value!!!

[JDPriestly]

21. Love that video!!!!

[edgineered]

22. For shame!

All in support of this should head to the group of the chosen, genuflect, and self emulate right now!

[840high]

23. Done. I also said 3 Hail Marys to be

on the safe side.

[ProudProg2u]

24. Was womdering when the "Hillary For Hire" gang was to show up...

Just like the repukes the "Hillary for hire" group has fired the first shot. btw ,"Hillary for Hire" refers to the same repukes and other politicians who are owned by corporatist Bankster"s ect,ect,...Eliz is not..Sanders in not..Thus "Hillary For Hire" as she is "OWNED BY SPECIAL INTERESTS" The repuke standard of attack that it seems is being deployed here are the same. Make something out of absolutely nothing and try to make it important.GOOD LUCK ,people are frigging damm tired of the "OBFUSCATION" Period...

Warren/Sanders
Sanders/Warren...2016

[SwankyXomb]

35. Hooked another one, Manny.

I keep telling him he should post them from a ThirdWayManny account, just to keep his trolling separate from his mocking.

[WilliamPitt]

26. ....rrrrrgggggggggaaaarrrrrrggghhhh...

Line from that vid: "This country need you."

Memo: THE COUNTRY HAS HER. Right exactly where they need her.

Sitting Ted Kennedy's senate seat.

Teddy did more good for you and I from that seat than all the presidents who came and went during his time, combined.

Stay where you are, Senator.

[MannyGoldstein]

32. Do you expect her to hold that seat for 47 years? nt

[WilliamPitt]

40. I expect nothing

but more than four would be nice. She just came down with the last drop of rain, politically speaking, and has already changed the game. Think about it: what's the most fucked up part of the federal government? Answer: congress, by a mile. How does one make the argument for removing a good part of congress from congress, so she'll have a worse congress she can't work with (and that's if she wins)?

We get obsessed with the Oval Office, incorrectly. The show is on Capitol Hill. She needs to stay put. I'm not against her running for president one day, but she's gold right where she is.

And P.S., Manny, please don't misconstrue my argle-bargle reply headline as a call-out or anything. It wasn't intended to be so.

[MannyGoldstein]

77. More than four is likely, of course,

since it's a six-year term

The President is the leader of his (or her) respective political party, and is the most influential person in the land.

Remember when Bush tried to pass three bad "free trade" agreements and Congresional Democrats rightly stopped them? When Obama became president, he wanted the same agreements passed, so Congressional Democrats passed them.

During the various insane fiscal cliff crises that have happened over the past few years, it's largely come down to Obama negotiating with Boehner. Reid was allowed to try to negotiate one of them, but when he wouldn't give enough away Obama pulled him out and took over, (allowing Republicans to keep 82% of the Bush tax cuts).

Similarly, the President has a bullier pulpit than anyone if they choose to use it, and bigger carrots and sticks to get Congress to behave.

It's hard to see how Warren in Congress can make as big of a difference as Warren in the White House. Given that she's got a mouth, a heart, a brain, and a willingness to fight, really fight, for the 99%, she could do a tremendous amount as President. As a Senator, she needs to deal with all manner of lunatics and swine to rise above the garbage.

[progree]

78. Obama kept the Bush tax cuts for the bottom 99%, and let them go up for the top 1%

back up to the level they were under Clinton -- 39.6% for the top bracket on ordinary income, and their long term capital gains back up to 20%.

When the ACA's 3.8% Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT) on the top 2 brackets is included, the actual long term capital gains tax rate for the top tax bracket (which is about where the top 1 percentile begins), is 23.8%, even higher than under Clinton, and 23.8/15.0 = 1.59 times higher than under Bush.

Details: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6503186

[font color = blue]>>77. it's largely come down to Obama negotiating with Boehner. Reid was allowed to try to negotiate one of them, but when he wouldn't give enough away Obama pulled him out and took over, (allowing Republicans to keep 82% of the Bush tax cuts).<< [/font]

(emphasis in above mine).

As a matter of intellectual honesty, I think you should mention which income groups kept and did not keep the Bush tax cuts.

[MannyGoldstein]

79. Should we also include changes to estate taxes

and the end of the reduction on payroll taxes?

And that the capitulation on restoring revenues is cause for the "need" (claimed by Republicans/Third-Wayers) to cut Social Security benefits?

[progree]

80. Yes, and we should look at 4 years of reduced taxes for working class folks under Obama

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[font color = blue]>>Should we also include changes to estate taxes<<[/font]

Good point. Yes, he kept that Bush gift to the top fraction of the top 1%. So I misspoke when I said in #78,

"and let them go up for the top 1% back up to the level they were under Clinton"

which definitely implies that all taxes on the top 1% went up to the Clinton levels, not just the income taxes (and beyond with the 3.8% Net Investment Income Tax (actually a surtax), and the 0.9% Medicare tax surcharge)

[font color = blue]>>and the end of the reduction on payroll taxes? <<[/font]

Obama reduced the payroll taxes as a temporary stimulus measure, and agreed to end that after 2 years. They are no higher under Obama now, than they were under Bush or Clinton. Meantime we had 4 years of reduced taxes for workers under Obama, when we include the Making Work Pay tax cuts from 2009 thru 2010. You should give him credit for that, it was a considerable reduction, even though it didn't last forever.

When saying who ended that tax reduction, intellectual honesty requires mentioning who started that tax reduction as well. The Making Work Pay and the Social Security partial payroll tax holiday tax reductions were done by Obama. (and, yes, ended by Obama). Rather than implying it was a Bush tax cut that Obama ended.

[font color = blue]>>77. allowing Republicans to keep 82% of the Bush tax cuts.<< [/font]

You were talking about changes to Bush's tax cuts. Well for 4 years we had a reduction of taxes below even the Bush levels, and those reductions mainly benefited the bottom 99%. That's a bit of context I think that is called for, rather than making Obama sound like Bush lite or some pansy who gave away 82% of the farm to the Republicans (when most of the 82% of the kept tax cuts went to the bottom 99%).

[font color = blue]>>And that the capitulation on restoring revenues is cause for the "need" (claimed by Republicans/Third-Wayers) to cut Social Security benefits?<<[/font]

And the Social Security Administration and the Social Security Trustees and the CBO and every reasonable person agrees that more expenditures going out than revenues coming in is unsustainable, particularly as the ratio of retirees to workers grows and grows (do you have other demographic projections?). The Social Security trustees project a 2033 trust fund exhaustion date, at which time, unless the law is changed, Social Security benefits will be reduced by about 25%.

There is another problem with the Social Security payroll partial tax holiday -- we defenders of Social Security have long argued that it is a separate program fully funded by a dedicated stream of revenue -- our payroll taxes -- and is not the cause of a dime of the national deficit. But that purity of dedicated funding was broken during the 2 years when general revenues were used to fill the gap to make up for the reduction in the S.S. part of the payroll tax from 6.2% to 4.2%. Because of that general revenue funding, we can no longer argue that all of Social Security was ENTIRELY funded by our payroll taxes, nor can we argue that S.S. is not the cause of ANY of the national debt.

Yes, there are better ways to keep the Social Security system solvent, like get rid of the top income cap.

Keep in mind that Obama and Reid are not kings, under our constitution. Obama had a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, as well as a House majority for something like 24 days. Can't get it all done in that amount of time.

[zeemike]

27. That was a vicious and unnecessary attack on the 1%

How dare the Warrenistis do such a thing, and on Democratic Underground at that...this post should banned and all traces of it deleted.

The job creators must be protected from this kind of thing.

Third Way Zeemike...(I decided to join you TWM you are such a convincing guy)

[AuntPatsy]

28. Curious, does she have anything to lose speaking out strongly against Wall Street and the like?

[Fearless]

37. Campaign funds mostly.

She like everyone else stands a lot to gain though. 150 million plus voters to gain.

[AuntPatsy]

51. Well since she's not running for president it shouldn't hurt her then I would assume...

[Fearless]

63. She does need to maintain cash flow for the next senate race, the same as any senator.

[ErikJ]

29. "banks are being bailed out while theyre crashing our economy"

Good one!

[sadoldgirl]

33. Shame on those people!

Don't they realize that this kind of video will make
the poor Senator cry in humiliation?

And most of them are not even white old males!

Shame on them, I say!

[KoKo]

43. I missed it.....Thanks for Posting and to RiverLover, also...

All good things take a bit of time to be REVEALED...

[RufusTFirefly]

44. Pathetic! I bet it wasn't even properly focus-grouped!!

What's this country coming to when regular people are allowed to create their own impassioned political plea? Don't these bozos know the rules?

[Thespian2]

48. Thanks for posting the video.

We need someone to take America back from the GREEDY BASTARDS. Obama wasn't the one...he joined them.

[mother earth]

49. Truly, she's not running, she's said it repeatedly & more & more, we need her desperately.

It's not right to dangle her like this in front of us.

Tx, Manny, Tx RiverLover, Tx Obama

[WillyT]

52. Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[Flying Squirrel]

56. It's a good thing I'm used to you

Of course the fact that the post has 50+ recs was another hint that it wasn't what it seemed.

[Bohemianwriter]

59. I don't see...

...Why they are embarrassing themselves. Neither should there be any reason why anyone should try to hide it.
Unless you're a Clinton zombie who cannot get past your affection for political royalties. I can see why Hillary drones think it's embarrassing. I think that Hillary supporters should be embarrassed. Since you are supporting a chickenhawk who's been funded by the same Wall Street that demonizes Bernie Sanders and Elisabeth Warren. Why do they do that? Because they are not dirty like Hillary is. And Hillary supporters are cheap tools for the same forces that used force against OWS.

I mean, are you not tired of choosing between a Bush and a Clinton the last 25 years? What's wrong with YOU people who cannot get past two bloody family names?

Does your 300 million people have such bad gene pool that you can't elect more than two families for your presidency?

[RiverLover]

62. This was a sarcastic OP.

Meant to shine a light on a genuine heartfelt campaign to draft a presidential bid from an amazing representative vs the manufactured, polished, and utterly superficial roll out of the presumptive, entrenched Democratic nominee being shoved at US.

(Run Warren Run!!)

[libdem4life]

64. Might I also humbly mention the Kennedy Family. They've gone on longer than the Bushes.

But we like them...at least I do. But then, they are white males. (Even Caroline got slimed with the ...she didn't earn it...when she briefly thought of running for Senate, I think it was.)

And Hillary is a Rodham, turned Clinton. Just like Elizabeth is a Republican turned Democrat and Bernie is a Socialist Progress who might turn Democrat. Very interesting.

[cascadiance]

69. Yep, and Reagan was once a Democrat, and Michele Bachman actively campaigned for Jimmy Carter

... in their earlier years. A lot of interesting "pathways" towards self discovery either in a positive or negative direction.

HRC was a former College Republican Party president at Wellesley College, and actively campaigned for Barry Goldwater then, before switching to being a Democrat. But during that time a young Thom Hartmann also walked around with his dad campaigning for Barry Goldwater too.

Before analyzing someone, their history should be analyzed, but carefully and to look at what they are now compared to what they were then and how they evolved that way...

[libdem4life]

71. I truly understand, I was President of the Whittier Young Republicans while still in high school.

back in 1965. I met him, actually. When I went to Whittier College, I learned to think for myself and became a lifelong liberal. However, I could not cast my first vote until McGovern when I was 21. Ironic.

[cascadiance]

75. And the only time I ever voted for a Republican was for Jon Anderson in 1980...

... even if at the time he as a former Republican who was running as an independent with a Democrat as his running mate in 1980. Not sure I remember as much why I didn't vote for Carter then, but perhaps it was something to do with him having run as a "born again" candidate earlier when he won in 1976 (which is probably what attracted Michele Bachman to him then!) and not being able to try and nominate someone like Jerry Brown then. I was definitely never going to vote for Reagan (who I still remember as Joan Baez's Ronald Raygun then), and in hind sight am glad I don't have to live with voting for a Libertarian ticket then that had one of the Koch brothers on it.

[libdem4life]

76. American politics...I had to scratch my head when I saw Jon Anderson...I think those were my

Career Person days and I was out of politics. Also, making the change to Liberal was a bit difficult still living in a very right wing town.

[Darb]

82. I'll wager that if she runs, and gets the nomination, then the full force of reality

will come crashing down as she loses in a landslide to Jeb Bush because they paint her as a socialist kook who is not ready for prime time.

I like her a lot, she is not ready to run or win a national election.

WITHOUT DOUBT. If she is the nominee she will lose. The Pigs would love to run against a socialist, trust me.

All you Hillary haters clue in, she knows what it takes to get elected, because if you lose you cannot do jack fucking shit.